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Winning the Linux Wars (MCP)

Winning the Linux Wars (MCP)

Posted Jan 9, 2006 17:57 UTC (Mon) by carcassonne (guest, #31569)
In reply to: Winning the Linux Wars (MCP) by CyberDog
Parent article: Winning the Linux Wars (MCP)

I build my own Linux systems (based on Linux from Scratch) that I use at home AND at work. So I'm pro-Linux and not at all pro-Windows. Still, there should be a way to present apps to the user and at the same time making the distinction between a base, supported system, and extra, other apps that may or may not work as is.

2 or 3 control centers are just confusing. But at the same time there should be choice. It's not by eliminating the other two that the consistency problem is solved.

For instance, with SuSE 9.3 I want to use MuSE which is found in the standard menu. Nice, I have an external Yamaha MIDI keyboard, so let's try to use this sequencer for fun. But no, there's a problem with Jack, and MuSE does nto run if Jack is sick (at least in this configuration). And where is Jack configuration mentioned in the SuSE handbook ? Nowhere. This is an unsupported application. But it is part of SuSE 'Linux' 9.3.

If I was a regular user I could easily say that 'Linux' is broken... unless it is made clear that MuSE is an addition, an extra application, which is not the case in SuSE 9.3 as MuSE is simply part of the KDE menu system. like Rosegarden, MainActor and everything else.

And so on so forth. Tried to start a newbie project with Blender recently ?

The apps have to be there. Do not take them out for simplicity's sake. But I think that there should be a clear, obvious, line for the user to cross to go into unsupported territory so that the user is warned that things might require more time to make work, be it configuration issues or simply learning, so the user's perception of 'Linux' is based on the apps that are supported and well-tested.


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Winning the Linux Wars (MCP)

Posted Jan 9, 2006 23:58 UTC (Mon) by zblaxell (subscriber, #26385) [Link]

The usual cue for this boundary is that the unsupported product came on different physical media and had to be installed by the user after the rest of the machine was delivered.

This doesn't work as well for fully integrated distributions like Debian, Gentoo, their imitators and relatives, unless there's an easy way for third parties to label the applications they provide support for such that the installer can present them distinctly. The distributors don't really support any of the packages at all (at least not in a contractual-obligations sense), and third parties who you could buy support from are usually separate entities from the distributor.

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