the non-free kernel module issue will come to a head [LWN.net]

the non-free kernel module issue will come to a head

Posted Jan 5, 2006 22:08 UTC (Thu) by wilck (subscriber, #29844)
In reply to: The Grumpy Editor's Obviously Incorrect 2006 Predictions by iabervon
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's Obviously Incorrect 2006 Predictions

I wish I could share you optimism. I know this issue is being discussed on LWN over and over, with a strong towards radically anti-prorietary people like Greg KH.

Yet, as I see things currently, "2006 will be the year of the linux desktop" and "the non-free kernel module issue will come to a head" are contradictory predictions to me.

In the worst case, a lot of important hardware will cease to work, or suffer from bad performance. That will scare away a lot of users and leave the open source community with significantly less momentum.

I'd also like to see the day where proprietary modules finally become obsolete, either because the free alternatives catch up or because the hardware vendors understand and release their specs.

I just don't believe that day is near, and I don't share the views of some who think the Linux developer community has the power to impose their will to both a bunch of really heavyweight companies and to the large group of pragmatic users who want their hardware to "just work" with all the features they have paid for.

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the non-free kernel module issue will come to a head

Posted Jan 5, 2006 22:12 UTC (Thu) by wilck (subscriber, #29844) [Link]

I know this issue is being discussed on LWN over and over, with a strong towards radically anti-prorietary people like Greg KH.

I meant to say "... with a bias towards ...". Sorry.

Hardware features

Posted Jan 7, 2006 17:00 UTC (Sat) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

I just don't believe that day is near, and I don't share the views of some who think the Linux developer community has the power to impose their will to both a bunch of really heavyweight companies and to the large group of pragmatic users who want their hardware to "just work" with all the features they have paid for.

You are right. One alternative is to pay for less features -- e.g. just use the onboard video cards which come integrated on many motherboards these days. Many people don't really care about bleeding-edge 3d features. The result: less high-end customers for ATI and nVidia.

But if Linux on the desktop has any significance, people will just want their damn 3d things to work right, binary modules or no binary modules. This is true today and hardware vendors know it, or they wouldn't be shipping binary Linux modules to begin with. So they will have no choice but to open their drivers.

Hardware features

Posted Jan 12, 2006 21:54 UTC (Thu) by wilck (subscriber, #29844) [Link]

So they will have no choice but to open their drivers.

That's the part I don't believe. The closed source drivers cost the vendors no more than a few developers. I have no idea if it pays off for them sales-wise, but it's a relatively cheap thing to do. Opening up the source is an entirely different issue. They may have licenced other companies' patented code, and they fear the loss of competitive advantage like hell. Most probably the non-free driver is some sort of cross-platform code, and they are afraid of opening up portions being also part of the Windows driver.

There are other devices out there, like cheap software RAID controllers, which need a proprietary driver top operate their disks in RAID mode. In this case, open-source RAID solutions being readily available, it makes no sense whatsoever to protect the code. Releasing binary drivers and keeping up to date with kernel development and different distributions, OTOH, causes their manufacturers big headaches. Yet they don't even think about opening up the source. And people buy their products (even OEMs who claim to support Linux) because they're a few cents cheaper than others. That's how it goes, I fear.

Still being pessimistic.