Mandriva to ship Skype [LWN.net]

Mandriva to ship Skype

Posted Dec 22, 2005 13:09 UTC (Thu) by fergal (subscriber, #602)
In reply to: Mandriva to ship Skype by man_ls
Parent article: Mandriva to ship Skype

If you want to make your point about "accessibility", please choose a different ground.

What do you mean choose the ground? The word is in the press release and in the comment I replied to. I chose to reply but I had no choice about where I replied.

And there is no argument I'm "carrying forward against the world". The number of replies I've posted may make it seem that way but that's far more to do with misinterpretation of my words than with any passion I feel for bringing my argument to the world.

I'm just saying it's a choice, like for example vegetarianism. Just like vegetarianism people do it for different reasons. Some for moral reasons, some for health, some just because they like it. None of these vegetarians are being denied access to meat.

When it comes to Free software I'm with the health and the liking it and I have sympathy for the moral reasons but I don't think morality will be a significant factor in the battle and I don't think it really helps to denounce a particular package on moral grounds. I think the battle will be won by the benefits of Free software and then, once people have become used used to this Freedom, non-free software will looked upon with suspicion and everyone will understand the risks involved in using it. I can see a day when goverments and large corporations will insist on Free software for everything except specialised tasks but I doubt anyone reading LWN today will live long enough to see a law banning non-free software (revolutions excluded).

Finally, Mandriva is not a "distribution of free software" and has not been for quite some time.

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Ethics in software

Posted Dec 22, 2005 14:17 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

Morality has a reason to exist: theoretical principles bring about practical changes. Dumb people just have things happen to them and cannot understand the reasons; clever people can distill their experiences into general rules of behavior. Really clever people can listen to others and learn from their experiences, without the need of actually suffering damage.

I am beginning to understand why Stallman always starts his speeches about free software with the famous printer-driver story. It is so that his audience can see that these principles have an actual applicability to the real world; it is not just an ethical problem. Free software solves real problems that people have all the time, like "why can't I run this software / hardware" or "how can I access my data".

Many commentators have mentioned a bunch of actual, practical reasons for preferring free software within the specific field of internet telephony. They have been completely lost on you; you just see "moral reasons". Maybe other readers can extract some benefit from the thread.