GNOME v. KDE, December 2005 edition [LWN.net]

GNOME v. KDE, December 2005 edition

Posted Dec 15, 2005 7:15 UTC (Thu) by heini (subscriber, #33614)
In reply to: GNOME v. KDE, December 2005 edition by Los__D
Parent article: GNOME v. KDE, December 2005 edition

You really think this is a good idea, don't you?

No other display manager out there let's you choose the language,
because it's simply stupid to put it there.

1) This locks Gnome users to using GDM, but what if they have no
control over what display manager is used (because it's not their
machine)?
2) You have to re-login to change the language.
3) What if you don't use any display manager at all?

So this makes the situation even more worse, sorry.

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GNOME v. KDE, December 2005 edition

Posted Dec 15, 2005 9:48 UTC (Thu) by Los__D (subscriber, #15263) [Link]

1) I expected you wanted the whole package.
2) New user = new login... Or are we schizo here?
3) If you don't use a display manager, you'd mostly be a shell user (Or one of those strange people who login with the text console and do a startx as the only command there), and used to LC_LANG if you want another language.

GNOME v. KDE, December 2005 edition

Posted Dec 15, 2005 10:33 UTC (Thu) by dvdeug (subscriber, #10998) [Link]

Changing the display manager is simply not possible for anyone using a multiuser system where the admin doesn't use Gnome. And it gets real tiring when every program expects that you're running the whole system; is it that unreasonable to try and choose the better program instead of the one from GNOME?

GNOME v. KDE, December 2005 edition

Posted Dec 16, 2005 17:47 UTC (Fri) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link]

Surely you always have to re-login to change the language: a process may only alter its own environment, and anyway translated strings are usually loaded by an application at startup, and never altered.

I do agree that there should be some kind of regional settings option in the preferences menu that would allow one to change the value of LANG. LANGUAGE and the various LC_* variables that will be used the next time one logs in.