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Sun to give away Java Enterprise SystemSun to give away Java Enterprise SystemPosted Dec 2, 2005 16:29 UTC (Fri) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)In reply to: Sun to give away Java Enterprise System by xtifr Parent article: Sun to give away Java Enterprise System
They'll probably release it under their own "Open Source" license, like Solaris. I.e., don't hold your breath, and don't expect it will be of any use when they finally do.
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Sun to give away Java Enterprise System Posted Dec 3, 2005 22:42 UTC (Sat) by erwbgy (subscriber, #4104) [Link] Whether you like the CDDL or not, it is an open source license. I was also initially sceptical, but their license FAQ is reasonable and accurate. It is unfortunate that the code they have made available can't be combined with GPL code, but that doesn't make it worthless.
Sun to give away Java Enterprise System Posted Dec 5, 2005 4:57 UTC (Mon) by jamesh (subscriber, #1159) [Link] The CDDL is basically the MPL with some modifications to make it more reusable, which is a good thing. If you are okay with the MPL, there isn't much in the CDDL to complain about.
The MPL states that it shall be governed by California law, and litigation will be subject to the jurisdiction of the California district courts. As you can imagine, this isn't particularly appealing to developers outside of California so they develop their own MPL variant.
The CDDL externalises the choice of jurisdiction, so you don't need to modify the license text in order to not subject yourself to California law. In theory, this should help reduce license proliferation (this is a theoretical benefit until other groups adopt the license).
Sun to give away Java Enterprise System Posted Dec 8, 2005 10:04 UTC (Thu) by ekj (subscriber, #1524) [Link] I never understood this; How can anyone choose which laws they are subject to ?If I use a [WHATEVER]PL licenced software in conflict with what the licence allows in say Norway, the developer who wants to do something about it will be forced to do so by delivering a complaint to a Norwegian court of law. Nothing he writes in his licence gives any US (or other) court any jurisdiction whatsoever over actions undertaken by a Norwegian citizen (me) in Norway. Is there something obvious I'm missing here ?
Sun to give away Java Enterprise System Posted Dec 8, 2005 19:04 UTC (Thu) by swiftone (guest, #17420) [Link] Nothing he writes in his licence gives any US (or other) court any jurisdiction whatsoever over actions undertaken by a Norwegian citizen (me) in Norway.Sort of. Because you accept the terms of the license (and therefore get the benefits) you have agreed to cede jurisdiction to the named court. If you didn't agree, you wouldn't accept the license, and wouldn't get the perks (i.e. you would be bound by the copyright laws of your country, most of which wouldn't let you modify and distribute the code) If you lived somewhere that didn't allow you to cede jurisdiction for a cross-border legal issue, it wouldn;t be binding. If the terms were unconscionable, the agreement could be overthrown. But in general, because you are agreeing to the license, and the jurisdiction issue is part of that agreement, they can do it.
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