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ipod :)

Posted Nov 28, 2005 20:58 UTC (Mon) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559)
In reply to: ipod :) by piman
Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's guide to music managers

>> Until you actually have to listen to it and notice the transcoding quality loss plus MP3's horrible quality

mp3s can be encoded at a high bitrate (just like any other codec). not lossless, but i am 99.9999% sure you would not be able to tell the difference at a high bitrate anyway. also you can encode your oggs at a very low bitrate if you wish. while ogg quality is very good, its main selling point is that it is free/open.

the fact is that if you are over thirty and have spent considerable time listening to music on headphones, you have probably suffered some low-grade hearing loss already (get tested, you will be surprised)...you might as well scale down the bitrate you encode at.

>> or run out of space on the device.

how does this change if you use ogg?


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ipod :)

Posted Nov 28, 2005 22:59 UTC (Mon) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link]

You run out of space faster by reencoding Oggs as high bitrate MP3s. You save space by encoding Oggs at lower bitrates for the same quality as high-bitrate MP3s.

Sure, I probably can't tell a 256kbps Ogg reencoded to a 320kbps MP3. But I sure can notice the 25% space increase. And I can also notice the difference between a 128kbps Ogg and a 128kbps MP3, *before* errors compound from transcoding.

ipod :)

Posted Nov 28, 2005 23:59 UTC (Mon) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link]

well i see your point about issues with transcoding. i guess my only response is that my ipod shuffle 1GB, which i use for trailrunning, is barely half full and i've run out of good running/workout music to put on it. so for me transcoding is not an issue.

i've never run into space constraints on the ipods i've owned, i don't think i've ever exceeded 60% space used. for other people, i suppose this may be an issue.

so far the shuffle has been the perfect running device for me - very light, resistant to light abuse, very easy to control in mid-stride.

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