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Posted Nov 27, 2005 10:32 UTC (Sun) by epeeist (guest, #1743)
In reply to: No Shock by b7j0c
Parent article: Microsoft, the "Vienna Conclusions," and the UN World Summit (Heise Online)

> Just another example of UN corruption, preference to corporate interests, and unaccountability.

Just another kneejerk American opinion regurgitating the current government, neocon and rightwing press mantra.

The blog entries are much more reasoned and actually illuminate the issue. The cheap shot above does nothing but give the outside world the idea that Americans just accept the propoganda of their governement.


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Posted Nov 27, 2005 12:10 UTC (Sun) by Los__D (subscriber, #15263) [Link]

Don't let the troll get to you. Check his message history...

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Posted Nov 27, 2005 15:23 UTC (Sun) by arcticwolf (guest, #8341) [Link]

The parent of the grandparent of your post? Also, how *do* you check someone else's message history?

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Posted Nov 27, 2005 16:22 UTC (Sun) by Los__D (subscriber, #15263) [Link]

Yeah, grandparent...

I see now that it's apparently not possible to search for a specific users comments, but I've never seen a word of reason from him, and a lot of badmouthing everything...

Check his history

Posted Nov 28, 2005 0:18 UTC (Mon) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

Google is your friend.

Check his history

Posted Nov 28, 2005 6:01 UTC (Mon) by Los__D (subscriber, #15263) [Link]

Perfect, thx! :D

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Posted Nov 28, 2005 17:46 UTC (Mon) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link]

>> I see now that it's apparently not possible to search for a specific users comments, but I've never seen a word of reason from him,

amazing, i am apparently a troll and a jerk for holding opinions, yet everyone else feels perfectly free to make personal insults here, doing so only when they think the majority are on their side (meaning, its safe).

where in this thread have i, without any context to the subject, simply insulted another user? (which is what you are doing)

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Posted Nov 30, 2005 12:00 UTC (Wed) by Los__D (subscriber, #15263) [Link]

Hmmm, I've been looking at comments again, not just looking at the few I encountered before.

Besides a few like this one (Which I still hold is just badmouthing the UN for no reason) and you Novell pieces, maybe I've been a little triggerhappy, and I'm sorry about that.

No Shock... action.

Posted Nov 27, 2005 19:10 UTC (Sun) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

" Just another kneejerk American opinion regurgitating the current
government, neocon and rightwing press mantra. "

So what is the solution(i'm not American) ?

From a democratic point of view Microsot has the majority to rule, and as
a long time aforism, it is knowned that power corrupts, and absolute power
corrupts absolutly! So Microsoft is corrupted, and navigates in another
sea of corruption, then those outcomes are only to be expected!... BETTER
THEY WHERE PLANED SOME TIME AGO(for sure) !!!... WHEN EVERYBODY WAS
PRAISING LINUX/OSS IN ITS DIRECTIONS AND DEVELOPMENT FOCUS...

Why havent users migrated in a big wave to open source, pulling that way,
litterally, the rug out of Microsoft feet ? Its only FUD ? Or is the
community at sleep ?

What can be done to avoid a forced harm in the direction of permitting
Microsoft to lock the prevasive hardware platform to itself ?

*What are going to be the prioritys of future development*, because
without it the grand masses wont change side in desktop and by consequence
in the majority of server, and in consequence microsoft retains the power
to *corrupt* as it pleases ???...

Trowing stones wont do any good, but if nothing *DIFFERENT FROM USUAL* is
done the OSS will find itself outcasted or severely impared by law
regulations to the point of near dissolution(big server vendors
remaining), because 10000 developers cant do anything if they are locked
away or neglect the grand masses of users.

Code, not words

Posted Nov 28, 2005 7:22 UTC (Mon) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

From a democratic point of view Microsot has the majority to rule
Not true; this is not The Lord of the Rings. Microsoft has nothing to rule, but they have a big pile of money.
Or is the community at sleep ?
Nope, the community is working together, coding and solving bugs.
*What are going to be the prioritys of future development*
Priorities are set by those who do the coding. In some companies, priorities are set by those who pay for development. Nothing earth-shattering most of the time, but at least they do something (other than talk).
Trowing stones wont do any good, but if nothing *DIFFERENT FROM USUAL* is done the OSS will find itself outcasted
Nonsense. If you are so worried and want to implement a better driver model, a higher level XML layer, anything that has the word "advanced" on it, or whatever; just learn how to program and do it. Otherwise you are just wasting our time.
10000 developers cant do anything if they are locked away or neglect the grand masses of users.
Yeah, right. Show us the code.

Code, not words

Posted Nov 28, 2005 7:36 UTC (Mon) by deepfire (guest, #26138) [Link]

In other words you tell him: "Shut up and code, slave!"

If there was anything else in your post, i missed it, sorry.

Code, not words

Posted Nov 28, 2005 16:03 UTC (Mon) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

In other words you tell him: "Shut up and code, slave!"
My message is rather the old "code talks louder than words". mmarq has a convoluted logic which is hard to follow and which sounds like telling other people to accept his priorities, based on a flaky logic (and never well substantiated IMHO). Just warning about the impending doom once and again is not enough; I think that his message would benefit if he spent some effort actually doing something about it.
If there was anything else in your post, i missed it, sorry.
That is the advantage of the written word: you can go over it as many times as you want, until you get it.

Code, not words

Posted Nov 28, 2005 23:15 UTC (Mon) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

" mmarq has a convoluted logic which is hard to follow and which sounds like telling other people to accept his priorities, based on a flaky logic (and never well substantiated IMHO). "

How is hard to understand scepticals and confined brains... i want to see code... i only can see code... i dont understand nothing but code... (why, where, purpouse, reason, and *FUTILITY*, are out of question!)

So, as speaking of logic here is something that also applyies to you :

"That is the advantage of the written word: you can go over it as many times as you want, until you get it."

Go get it "code tiger"!

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Posted Nov 28, 2005 17:37 UTC (Mon) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link]

>> Just another kneejerk American opinion regurgitating the current government, neocon and rightwing press mantra.

thats right, my comments about corporate control are certainly straight off of fox news.

reread the comment. i am COMPLAINING about the injection of corporate interests.

and of course my comments about corruption at the UN are certainly straight from the nut gallery, right? is that why koffi anan's own son was recently implicated in the oil-for-food corruption scandal? oh i guess my complaint about people being BRIBED by CORPORATIONS is once again straight from the desk of sean hannity.

and my call that a government be elected? wow! so radical.

and now i'm a troll? i would rather be a troll than a political illiterate.

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Posted Nov 29, 2005 3:31 UTC (Tue) by beoba (guest, #16942) [Link]

What's with the anger? Calm down.

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