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Other toolsOther toolsPosted Nov 22, 2005 11:02 UTC (Tue) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)In reply to: EFF? Good, definitely by sandy_pond Parent article: EFF Files Class Action Lawsuit Against Sony BMG What? "$ is the only tool we have"? Man, worshipping the almighty $ is alright, I suppose; but this is too much. What about public outcry, humilliation, jail time; losing their jobs, face, good name and prestige? Sony used to care about their customers, to the point of taking their opponents to court in the famed Betamax case; today Sony stands for poor products and despise for their customers. Let them suffer.
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Other tools Posted Nov 22, 2005 15:14 UTC (Tue) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link] Unless there is criminal misconduct, jail is not an option. So far there doesn't seem to be much here other than civil complaints. As for the rest, things like humiliation, face, good name, and prestige only matter to a company insofar as they affect the bottom line: it all comes down to $ in the end, when you're dealing with corporations. That's what capitalism is all about.
Other tools Posted Nov 22, 2005 23:06 UTC (Tue) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] > Unless there is criminal misconduct, jail is not an option.
Should I remind you that individuals have been jailed for writing virus and
Other tools Posted Nov 22, 2005 23:15 UTC (Tue) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link] Writing viruses and compromising computers is considered a form of trespass, and that is criminal. Copyright infringement is only criminal if it's done for economic gain or on a very large scale: assuming you're referring to the LAME, etc. code found on the CD: I seriously doubt that would meet the criteria for criminal copyright infringement. None of the current legal cases against Sony allege any criminal misconduct.
Crimes Posted Nov 25, 2005 7:36 UTC (Fri) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link] > None of the current legal cases against Sony allege any criminal> misconduct Certainly the *reporting* does. Installing a rootkit is certainly 'compromising' a computer. Violating the LGPL is copyright infringement. What exactly is Sony being sued for, if not these two *crimes*?
Crimes Posted Nov 28, 2005 7:16 UTC (Mon) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link] As I said, suing someone is a CIVIL matter, not a CRIMINAL matter. There is (at least in the U.S.) a very big difference. As far as I'm aware, no CRIMINAL charges have been made.
Other tools Posted Nov 23, 2005 14:09 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] That's what capitalism is all about.The "everything is convertible to and from $" is not a part of capitalism; in fact it is more easily assimilable to a form of religion, not an economic theory. Prestige is not about money; if anything, it can be related to future money, but earnings are volatile by nature and cannot be predicted. Similarly, a brand can be bought and sold, but in fact a brand without good products is worthless. I think that a corporation that only looks at earnings and losses is a bad corporation.
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