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Novell hedging their betsNovell hedging their betsPosted Nov 21, 2005 7:35 UTC (Mon) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)In reply to: novell throwing away money on this by b7j0c Parent article: de Icaza: Mono directions
this idea you posit that programmers will only know c# is absurd.I understand khim thinks that there will be some programmers who only know C#, just like there are programmers now who only know Java (and make a nice living out of it, by the way). Not that everything will be done in C#. And why not? It's not maybe a choice for Office or games development; but for business applications on Windows, C# should be good enough. And Novell is going after the business market. So as long as C# is a motive for anyone to stay on Windows (now or in 10 years time), Novell is just removing that motive. Sounds reasonable to me.
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Novell hedging their bets Posted Nov 21, 2005 17:26 UTC (Mon) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link] >> And why not? It's not maybe a choice for Office or games development; but for business applications on Windows, C# should be good enough
except the market for office products is stagnant, unless you are telling me that MS Office is going to be rewritten in C#
otherwise, where are all these new office apps? there is LESS diversity in this market than there was five years ago. its a REPLACEMENT PARTS market now and even microsoft can't get users to upgrade.
Novell hedging their bets Posted Nov 22, 2005 0:34 UTC (Tue) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link] except the market for office products is stagnant, unless you are telling me that MS Office is going to be rewritten in C# Hmm. Please remind me when MS Office was rewritten in Visual Basic ? C# is filling role Visual Basic filled 10 years ago and Cobol filled before: in-house programs. otherwise, where are all these new office apps? there is LESS diversity in this market than there was five years ago. its a REPLACEMENT PARTS market now and even microsoft can't get users to upgrade. They are where they should be: on workplaces in different companies. You'll not see them on shelf. You'll never replace Windows on desktops without them. That's why we need Gambas and C#. And no, it's not REPLACEMENT PARTS market. Custom-made applications are just that: custom-made. Structure of companies are changin, requirements are changin and so programs need support. Forever. This is invisible part of software iceberg and this is where C# is mostly used today. May be Microsoft had bigger plans for C#, may be not - but in reality "C# is Visual Basic today" and this is enough to support it.
Novell hedging their bets Posted Nov 22, 2005 5:36 UTC (Tue) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link] >> This is invisible part of software iceberg
although apparently you can see it....????
Novell hedging their bets Posted Nov 23, 2005 17:22 UTC (Wed) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link] >> although apparently you can see it....????
Only if you are under the water :-)
Novell hedging their bets Posted Nov 22, 2005 20:38 UTC (Tue) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] Please read again:It's not maybe a choice for Office or games development; but for business applications on Windows, C# should be good enoughMaybe not for office development, definitely yes for business applications. Who cares about the market for office products? It's for in-house business applications where jobs abound. There it's basically C# or Java; and those users are probably game for a Linux variant, if they can stage a smooth transition. Mono should help there.
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