Joining forces with GNOME? [LWN.net]

Joining forces with GNOME?

Posted Nov 17, 2005 10:10 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
In reply to: Joining forces with GNOME? by darthmdh
Parent article: Oxygen Icons Website Launched (KDE.News)

GNOME exists so Redhat can say they invented the Linux desktop. KDE exists so SuSE can say the same thing.

Please tell me you were joking. This fails to conform to my understanding of reality in a rather extreme manner :)

Eventually I'd hope that gstreamer and/or polypaudio can replace arts and esd: it can already transparently replace esd: replacing arts is more complex because of arts's loadable plugin system, but should be doable.

(Lennart, are you still working on polypaudio?)

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Joining forces with GNOME?

Posted Nov 17, 2005 11:41 UTC (Thu) by cventers (subscriber, #31465) [Link]

There has been talk that KDE4 will introduce a new multimedia library --
wait - wait - I said library, not server. The idea is that rather than
coupling KDE apps that use audio right to arts, hence making arts a
dependency, the apps will be able to use whatever backend the system
uses, whether it be native ALSA, OSS, ESD, ARTS, GStreamer or JACK.

Good lord, I can't believe we've gotten ourselves into such a mess with
audio :)

Hopefully we'll find a way out.

Joining forces with GNOME?

Posted Nov 17, 2005 17:51 UTC (Thu) by aseigo (guest, #18394) [Link]

yes, we'll be providing a simple, generic API for apps that need to do the
basics ("play this bit of audio now", pause, stop, fast forward, rewind,
etc).

but we'll also likely be picking a "preferred" engine that we use for the
bulk of our testing as well as for apps that need access to more advanced
audio features.

Joining forces with GNOME?

Posted Nov 18, 2005 7:31 UTC (Fri) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

Please, please phase out arts. It is another layer, uses obscene amounts of system resources, it hangs a lot, adds more latency to audio, and has stupid capitalization (which I don't remember right now). Plain ALSA (with dmix) does the trick for me.