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Today's fun patent: space drive

For the sheer fun of it: if you were thinking of heading off to the stars, be careful you don't infringe on patent #6,960,975, being for a "space vehicle propelled by the pressure of inflationary vacuum state." "A cooled hollow superconductive shield is energized by an electromagnetic field resulting in the quantized vortices of lattice ions projecting a gravitomagnetic field that forms a spacetime curvature anomaly outside the space vehicle. The spacetime curvature imbalance, the spacetime curvature being the same as gravity, provides for the space vehicle's propulsion."
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Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 16:08 UTC (Wed) by kirkengaard (subscriber, #15022) [Link]

Drat. That research field was just starting to show promise. I had just gotten a non-zero gravitational flux out of my hollow-body superconducting resonance chamber, and now I'll never get it off of the ground. I guess I'll just shred these charts on production of gravitic standing-waves and the potential for controlled release of multi-axis reactionless thrust.

:D

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 16:30 UTC (Wed) by kirkengaard (subscriber, #15022) [Link]

In seriousness, having poisoned my brain reading design specs I cannont now imitate, I wonder if he ever made a prototype to test whether charged vacuum states actually generate sufficient increase in virtual particle generation from ZPE (increase in vacuum density) to push a ship, and just how much power this approach would take. If he can push a ship, he can deflect incoming matter with a different shape field.

Thank you, Jon Corbet, for stimulating my brain. :)

PTO requirements---strictly enforced

Posted Nov 16, 2005 17:47 UTC (Wed) by Max.Hyre (subscriber, #1054) [Link]

Your (modulo U.S. citizenship) patent office sez
The patent law specifies that the subject matter must be ``useful.'' The term ``useful'' in this connection refers to the condition that the subject matter has a useful purpose and also includes operativeness, that is, a machine which will not operate to perform the intended purpose would not be called useful, and therefore would not be granted a patent.

. . .

A patent cannot be obtained upon a mere idea or suggestion. The patent is granted upon the new machine, manufacture, etc., as has been said, and not upon the idea or suggestion of the new machine. A complete description of the actual machine or other subject matter for which a patent is sought is required.

Boy, do I want to check out the prototype!

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 19:17 UTC (Wed) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

I had just gotten a non-zero gravitational flux out of my hollow-body superconducting resonance chamber, and now I'll never get it off of the ground.

I got a non-zero gravitational flux out of my Gibson ES-175 hollow-body guitar, but I'm having trouble with life support, so I haven't been doing a lot of interplanetary travel.

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 16:57 UTC (Wed) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

hmmm... that's funny!

This days everybody seem to want to patent everything... patenting what ever they seem to have a remote possibility of working, perhaps patenting their own livestyle... so that no one can have some fun at a new leisure passtime, or adopt a fashioned self image, or(wonder if Linus[Trovalds] ever thought on patenting been a benevolent dictator of a OS kernel development community!?)... without paying royalties... bahh, that aint funny anymore!

Meanwhile real scientific work about gravity seems to be conducted everywhere. Its not that i'm on the moon, but real scientists(perhaps this Volfson; Boris has something, but be aware that frauds abound) are allover at it everywhere literally, and then it is very hard to discard **that fact**.

Though names and perspectives only appear prejuratively and occasionaly on main hore manipulated press and simply ignored in religious orthodox science view papers, dont mean a sh?t!
http://www.americanantigravity.com/articles/275/1/Who%26%...

a good documented experience from;
http://www.americanantigravity.com/gravitywaves.shtml
http://www.arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0108005

and orthodoxs are starting to have a bad time
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/07/02/6900030W...

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 17:41 UTC (Wed) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

oops... considering the high sensitivy that goes on this days, i want to reasure that;

""(wonder if Linus[Trovalds] ever thought on patenting been a benevolent dictator of a OS kernel development community!?)""

had never an offensive or depreciative intention of any kind.

Space drive no fun anymore

Posted Nov 16, 2005 18:36 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link]

Yeah, these days it is difficult to actually avoid discovering antigravity! It is no fun anymore, and this patent only confirms it. I think I will turn my efforts to psychokinetic impulse drive, it's harder but at least the field is less crowded.

Space drive no fun anymore

Posted Nov 16, 2005 20:29 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Well, Alcubierre et al did it, but the energy requirements of the Alcubierre drive are... prohibitive, even discounting that it's negative. (The earliest versions required negative 20x that available in the entire visible universe, and even the latest versions from van den Broeck require an amount of energy equivalent but negative to that obtained by converting Jupiter entirely into energy, and you can't see out of the field once it's turned on, and if I recall correctly it crushes you to death when you turn it on or off. Is that patentable? :) )

Space drive no fun anymore

Posted Nov 17, 2005 2:59 UTC (Thu) by AJWM (guest, #15888) [Link]

I don't recall van den Broek's version as requiring energy on that order of magnitude, but the trick is that the energy required is negative. (Hey, if it's a negative energy sink, does that mean it's a positive energy source? Never mind.)

The "can't see out of the field" is a minor irritant, so long as you're pointed in the right direction and you know how long to turn it on for. Interstellar space is mostly empty, and you're displacing it, not going through it, so collisions with interstellar molecules are a non-issue. (Collisions with larger bodies are more problematic, mainly I wonder what the gravity well would to your Alcubierre/van den Broek warp bubble).

I've used the idea in a couple of SF stories. Yeah, there's still some handwaving, but not as much as most. And some of the inherent constraints of a van den Broek bubble (maximum diameter before the "bubble wall" thickness drops below Planck length) add some interesting (IMHO) challenges.

Hmm, maybe I need to patent the story lines... (he said in a feeble attempt to bring this comment back on-topic.)

Space drive no fun anymore

Posted Nov 17, 2005 1:05 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

C'mon man_LS cheer up... If you really want to make money, everybody knows that the future is in here;

http://weblog.physorg.com/news3628.html

I have emails from a secret, anti dark-conspiracy organization, that reasures that Microsoft is running up for the 2006 award, with nothing nonless than 3 clones of William Gates III.

The plans revealed trough a leaked memo from a top MS Office(10^12), with the unfortunated dead of a field infiltrated operative, states the intention of producing a vast network of Agent Smith like clones capable of transfering a special energy pill by means of vacuum photonic flux psychokinetic, directly into the bodys of every open source developer, so that they all could return and stay at cutting hair during the day and automatically at sleep during the night.

But then again, the leaked relation of hair and pills, have furiously inflated a backstage firm reaction, with a reasured law suit pending, from those "guys";
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005...
if Microsoft dosent desist, because they own all relevant patents.

The backstage buzzword got matters much worst, because the pharmaceutical corporations of viagra, upon hearing of pills, curls and Microsoft, threatened to follow with another law suit, because considering the way that sometimes Windows(r) works, it could turn many heads into large pubic areas, and that could be nothing but considered an illegal interference in their business.

So it seems we wont see WGIII clones any time soon!

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 17:02 UTC (Wed) by rknop (guest, #66) [Link]

I think Gene Roddenberry has prior art on that one.

And, what with it being fiction, art is the right word.

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 17:40 UTC (Wed) by kirkengaard (subscriber, #15022) [Link]

Not on the design involved. The Roddenberry Warp Drive involves alternate spaces with varied constants, not local variation of the general Cosmological Constant. Even Impulse Drive is a plasma ejector. But I have too much free time. :)

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 17, 2005 2:56 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

Considering prior art it seems that there are already complaints,.. like hungry lions on a rotting carcase it seems to me!

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=AvantGo&op=R...

Never got that, Einstein theory is almost 100 years old, advanced for his time, but... what is spacetime curvature?

Of course if there wasent space there couldn't be time, neither anything anyware, and in a pure conceptual space we can have all the curves imaginables! So dosent be space a necessary and sufficient conditon?

Does an imaginable completely empty space have time ? Who or what can possibly measure it ? Something? Then is not empty!

A singularity ? what is outside of the singularity ? Spacetime ? or only space because the singularity to expand it must have space ?

How came it is often stated that spacetime was *ALL* wraped up in that singularity ?... and a supposed respected institution like USPTO regardless or too regarding of rotting rules and sciency laws, promotes any bullshit that cames in form of a patent, regardless of logic.

Guess a stargate episode is more brigther!

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 21:14 UTC (Wed) by evgeny (guest, #774) [Link]

Reminds me of:
"The greatest achievements of the neutron megaloplasma! [...] The rotor of the field like divergence graduates itself along its spin and there, inside, converts the matter of the question into spiritual electricity vortices, out of which the synecdoche of answering is being born...". Strugatsky brothers[1], "Tale of the Troika"[2], some 40 years ago. Unfortunately, no official English translation exists.

On a more serious note (if it's possible): a paper the patent refers to, "N. LI & D.G. Torr, "Effects of a Gravitomagnetic Field on Pure Superconductors", Physical Review, vol. 43, p. 457, 3 pages, Jan. 15, 1991" (even the reference is wrong - it should be "Physical Review _D_"), with its continuation, gained a proper evaluation soon [3]:

"Li and Torr [...] have developed theoretical models to estimate the magnitude of gravitomagnetic effects in superconductors. The magnitude deduced, however, is grossly overestimated, because the authors have misinterpreted the meaning of the magnetic permeability [...]. The authors have also proposed flawed models of the microscopic dynamics of superconductors to support their error."

Mind you, such harsh words in the abstract of a scientific publication are rather rare. This patent's "Primary Examiner: Barrera; Ramon M." has done an outstanding job...

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_and_Arkady_Strugatsky
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tale_of_the_Troika
[3] http://prola.aps.org/abstract/PRB/v49/i1/p704_1

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 21:57 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

Perhaps the examiner was influenced by vacuum pressure density.

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 22:08 UTC (Wed) by mikec (guest, #30884) [Link]

Or perhaps a vacuum applied orally to a glass tube heated to boil the contents?

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 22:51 UTC (Wed) by brouhaha (subscriber, #1698) [Link]

They shouldn't have granted this one, since the Turbo-Encabulator is obviously prior art.

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 16, 2005 23:56 UTC (Wed) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

NO! Cant you tell that what is discribed here;

" simply of six hydrocoptic marzelvanes, so fitted to the ambifacient lunar waneshaft that side fumbline was effectively prevented. The main winding was of the normal lotus-0-delta type placed in panendermic semiboiloid slots in the stator, every seventh conductor being connected by a nonreversible tremie pipe to the differential gridlespring on the "up" end of the grammeters. "

is a complete different apparatus,... hein? All hell breacks loose if it aint a complete different model of extors... (pardon) of which joint venturers can deduce imediate practical appliances.

Today's fun patent: space drive

Posted Nov 17, 2005 10:41 UTC (Thu) by dark (subscriber, #8483) [Link]

It'll be sooo funny when we start using the space drive in this patent to explore the galaxy, and then we meet the advanced galactic civilization which sues us into extinction for violating 200 billion galactic patents starting with "use of oxygen as a fuel source for self-replicating organisms".

Well... maybe it wouldn't be funny.

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