It ain't over till the fat lady sings

It ain't over till the fat lady sings

Posted Oct 25, 2005 15:44 UTC (Tue) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559)
In reply to: It ain't over till the fat lady sings by khim
Parent article: Cold Realities For Novell (BusinessWeek)

>> I'm talking about web-applications of architecture.
>> (X)HTML+JavaScript is slow, error-prone way of doing things.

such as?

>> *VM makes it possible to process a lot of data locally. Think about
>> Flash: it's primitive VM and that exactly why so much
>> sites are using it.

??? people use flash because it is a shortcut to dynamic content, and frankly its designer tools are better. the adoption of flash has nothing to do with its treatment of network traffic - it operates the same way the browser does with respect to data. it has a local cache, a scripting layer, and a network socket available.

>> Hmm... And what this argument does here on LWN ? Either Linux does not
>> matter or something's wrong with your arguments

the web platform has already taken off and no it doesn't matter what OS you use as long as it is fairly stable, supports a decent browser, and has network support. this works out in *favor* of linux, since linux now favorably competes on basis of price, given equal feature support. in your VM/api world, linux cannot compete because microsoft and sun will never release 100% free (osi-compliant, "free as in speech") versions of their VMs and apis. so i think your point is self-defeating, unless you are willing to accept non-free software. in the webapp world, you don't have to.

>> Sorry, but this reminds me of old TCP/IP vs IPX dispute.

how and why are webapps tied to a single network implementation? the 500 million people using the web aren't going anywhere. they will be using the web in a decade and two decades in some form (an open network with markup based communications).

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