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China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com)
Yahoo.com reports
that Sun Wah has won a bid for the deployment of over 140,000 machines in
China. "Sun Wah Linux will install RAYS LX, its Debian-based Linux
workstation distro, as the default operating system on the desktop
PCs. According to Minou Nguyen, a U.S.-based Sun Wah Linux spokesperson,
although the project at one time specified Microsoft Windows as the desktop
OS, Sun Wah "managed to turn these desktops into dual-boot machines with
RAYS LX as the preferred loading OS.""
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AMD breaks world records! Posted Oct 7, 2005 16:51 UTC (Fri) by genius (guest, #19981) [Link] dudes, check this out!http://internetnews.com/stats/article.php/3554506
Intel sucks! Big time!
AMD breaks world records! Posted Oct 7, 2005 17:18 UTC (Fri) by RMetz (guest, #27939) [Link] Generally speaking, discussions on LWN do not involve hardware company fanboy-ishness except in the case of companies opening up their hardware to us.
I do, however, mostly use AMD processors.
AMD breaks world records! Posted Oct 7, 2005 19:06 UTC (Fri) by debacle (subscriber, #7114) [Link] I fail to see the connection to the original article. Could you please enlighten me?
AMD breaks world records! Posted Oct 7, 2005 19:16 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] I don't think the original poster has ever posted anything that was simultaneously on-topic and inoffensive. If anyone knows otherwise, I'd be interested...
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China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 7, 2005 17:19 UTC (Fri) by RMetz (guest, #27939) [Link] It's Debian-_based_. Does anyone know if they've contributed their changes back to the Debian community?
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 7, 2005 17:43 UTC (Fri) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link] They're DCC members if that means anything.
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 7, 2005 22:24 UTC (Fri) by cjwatson (subscriber, #7322) [Link] I've seen no debian-installer contributions at all from them, although I know they've made extensive modifications to it. (Their Subversion repository is available, although I don't know how up-to-date it is. Note that they use version numbers that clash with versions of the same package in Debian.)
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 8, 2005 0:17 UTC (Sat) by debacle (subscriber, #7114) [Link] It would be interesting to know, whether they are just ignorant, but friendly, or, hm, evil. Does someone know, what kind of changes they did to d-i?
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 8, 2005 3:34 UTC (Sat) by rqosa (subscriber, #24136) [Link] It is not "evil" to exercise the rights the GPL grants to them, as long as they're not violating the GPL. If upstream wants their changes, they can take them.
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 8, 2005 8:18 UTC (Sat) by debacle (subscriber, #7114) [Link] Sorry, the evil was meant ironically. It is obvious, that they do not violate any license. The question is: Do they not know how to cooperate nicely or do they not want to cooperate? With cooperate = discussing d-i changes on the debian-boot mailing list, helping upstream actively to use their enhancements, using sane version numbers, etc. which does not seem to be the case.
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 10, 2005 6:02 UTC (Mon) by njhurst (guest, #6022) [Link] Or do they simply find that trying to contribute upstream is a waste of their time? I've been bitten in the past trying to get small patches into upstream to be ignored or told to 'get lost'.
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 8, 2005 10:25 UTC (Sat) by cjwatson (subscriber, #7322) [Link] (As rqosa says, "evil" is too strong a word. I haven't found the time to get as many of the Ubuntu installer changes back as I'd like either, although I'd say that the majority of my commits since May 2004 have had something to do with Ubuntu.) The largest change they made was some work on a graphical installer, including a replacement partitioner. I did look over them once with a view to attempting to integrate the cdebconf changes, but they seemed very specialised indeed, and I ended up adding custom widget support instead so that it could be generalised. I don't think it was ever discussed on debian-boot, though.
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 10, 2005 16:26 UTC (Mon) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] > Note that they use version numbers that clash with versions of the same package in Debian
So does Ubuntu for binary-only rebuild ?
China Awards Six-Figure Desktop Linux Rollout (Yahoo.com) Posted Oct 10, 2005 16:48 UTC (Mon) by cjwatson (subscriber, #7322) [Link] That's not remotely as big a problem as packages with the same version number but completely different source and a completely different feature set. In general Ubuntu binary packages with the same version number as Debian binary packages will provide the same functionality; if they don't, I'd consider it a bug.
I realise this is something that you personally dislike, but I don't think that it's a problem for packages to be rebuilt, and I think the costs of going round bumping all their version numbers would outweigh the benefits.
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