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Would appreciate getting copy of BK/Pro no-compete clauseWould appreciate getting copy of BK/Pro no-compete clausePosted Oct 3, 2005 17:53 UTC (Mon) by rickmoen (subscriber, #6943)Parent article: Mercurial loses a developer
Everyone seems to be surmising that the BKCL (licence of the commercial version) has recently gained a non-compete clause similar to what the BKL had. The inference seems reasonable, but would be good to confirm. Would someone who's a commercial licensee be good enough to e-mail me that paragraph from the "bk bkcl" output (or whatever BK directive is required, these days)? I ask in part because I track the history of SCMs available for Linux, and do comparative analysis of proprietary Linux apps' licenses on my Web site. It would thus be useful to get the exact text of Larry and co's recent changes. Some the firms involved, over the years, have objected to my posting licence excerpts (or entire licences) as part of analyses on my site, a couple going so far as to assert copyright infringement. While I'm sympathetic to their concerns about commercial rights and marketing position, I do think the legality and propriety of licence analysis is well established, on several grounds. (Please pardon USA-centrism in the following; it's the applicable law in this case.)
No firm has thus far attempted legal remedies after I've politely pointed the above out. Although I'm not an attorney (and nobody else should take personal or business stances based on nothing better than my analysis, please), it strikes me that this is because the complaining parties either didn't know the law or were bluffing quite shamefully. Baseless legal threats tend to work extremely well against computerists, I've noticed -- copyright demands and trademark-infringement claims, mostly. A cynic might speculate that that's why they're attempted so often. It would be refreshing if they were to not prevail quite so readily. (Of course, this will require computerists to be more consistently careful about their stances and research thereof.) Anyhow, the clause in question, if present, probably includes the phrase "this License is not available to You if You and/or your employer develop, produce, sell, and/or resell a product which contains substantially similar capabilities". I'd appreciate anyone having access to the licence e-mailing me the paragraph that contains that wording or similar in BK/Pro v. 3.2.6 (current) or other recent versions -- or would write to me saying no such clause is present. Rick Moen
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Would appreciate getting copy of BK/Pro no-compete clause Posted Oct 3, 2005 18:42 UTC (Mon) by rickmoen (subscriber, #6943) [Link] Oh, I forgot to mention: Tort law also provides for an equitable defence called "copyright abuse", under which a court can declare the work's entire licence unenforceable on account of such things as unreasonable, anticompetitive non-compete clauses, even where the infringing acts are totally unrelated to the non-compete clause itself, and even where there is a severability clause. See: Lasercomb Am., Inc. v. Reynolds, 911 F.2d 970 (4th Cir. 1990) That's one of the reason why such clauses are a double-edged sword, and must be drafted very carefully to avoid anticompetitive language. Whether any proprietary software for Linux of interest contains anticompetitive language I leave as an exercise for the reader. Rick Moen
Probably not in the license text... Posted Oct 6, 2005 7:27 UTC (Thu) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link] I haven't seen the current text of BitMovers's license, but Larry insists it hasn't changed in a long time. My impression is that his threats are not of the form, "you are violating the license by allowing your employee to compete with me, and I am within my rights to revoke it". Rather, they are of the practically equivalent (husky-voiced) form, "your conduct is not up the the standards we expect of a BM licensee, so we are seriously considering not offering to renew your license when it expires."This is along the lines of "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" café and bar signs, and the first-amendment (U.S.) constitutional right to Freedom of Association, and whatnot. Anyone so threatened by Larry would be well-advised to notify him by indignant registered letter of any minority (and female majority) members on staff, and remind him that they are as deserving of service as anyone else (or else). Then, of course, migrate with all due speed from BK to a system that does not subject one to such threats.
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