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Firefox buffer overflow and full disclosure

Firefox buffer overflow and full disclosure

Posted Sep 18, 2005 15:40 UTC (Sun) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435)
In reply to: Firefox buffer overflow and full disclosure by giraffedata
Parent article: Firefox buffer overflow and full disclosure

> So I assume you're just saying that spreading the word isn't responsible
> for any breakins, even though it is obviously a contributing cause. Like
> the idea that if you leave a pair of glasses on the floor and someone steps
> on them, the stepper is not responsible for the damage.

Well, more in the way that someone who informs you the building is on
fire isn't responsible for setting it... Instead, he's warning you of it,
so you can take action to protect yourself... Or, I suppose a more apt
analogy would be one who notices that the room where everyone gathers to
smoke is actually filled with barrels of gas and boxes of dynamite, which
no one else has ever spotted before... Should he quietly tell management,
so they can silently remove the dangerous items, or should he warn the
smokers so they don't accidentally blow themselves up?? Even if it does
mean that a malicious smoker among them might use the opportunity to blow
up the building just because he hates the place, or something...

> CR would assume responsibility and not publish immediately.

I'm not so sure that's correct... I don't really know for sure, but I
actually suspect they would be more concerned with informing the public
ASAP, since that basically seems to be their core mission... *shrug*

But, regardless of what they would really do, I certainly don't think it
would be "irresponsible" or "immoral" of them to inform the public ASAP...
Nor, do I see any increased "responsibility"/"morality" in any orgination
that would keep the info secret from the public for any length of time...
I can see how they might be trying to do good and protect people, but I
really think they'd be deluding themselves, because being informed is
always the best way of protecting oneself, and will always be far better
than being kept ignorant while those-who-think-they-know-better-than-you
decide your fate...


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Firefox buffer overflow and full disclosure

Posted Oct 10, 2005 1:47 UTC (Mon) by turpie (guest, #5219) [Link]

That's a very poor analogy. Such a fire hazard could result in legitimate users accidently creating a life threatening disaster. Hardly similar to a security bug in a web browser.

Most users would be unable to create their own patches to fix a security hole, and unlikely to want to go to the hassle of swapping to another program if their preferred choice of program is likely to be fixed in a couple of days. I believe developers should be notified of the bug and told that they would have no more than 14 days to fix the problem before it is made public. The developers would then have time to fix or workaround the bug, test and release an update before the blackhats were informed. If the developers didn't respond in time then that fact should be a part the security disclosure so the users may be better informed and can then change their software preferences.

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