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Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek)Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek)Posted Sep 15, 2005 17:44 UTC (Thu) by cventers (subscriber, #31465)Parent article: Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek)
I hope Massachusetts follows through. This decision could snowball and
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Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek) Posted Sep 15, 2005 18:32 UTC (Thu) by thomask (guest, #17985) [Link] "they can certainly still play the three E's."
maybe I'm the only one here who doesn't know what "the three E's" are, but could you play E for enlightenment for me, please?
Thanks.
Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek) Posted Sep 15, 2005 18:38 UTC (Thu) by meffie (guest, #3120) [Link] 3Es = embrace extend extinguish
Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek) Posted Sep 15, 2005 18:39 UTC (Thu) by eli (subscriber, #11265) [Link] I had to pause a moment when I read that too, having not seen itcompressed that far. But anyway, I believe the "three E's" are Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek) Posted Sep 16, 2005 0:41 UTC (Fri) by coolian (guest, #14818) [Link] Actually, I believe that they cannot call it "Open Document Support" if itdoesn't pass a certain amount of tests the OASIS Foundation set up, for just this type of occurrence. So, perhaps the triple-E will be a bit harder to do this time...
Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek) Posted Sep 16, 2005 0:48 UTC (Fri) by cventers (subscriber, #31465) [Link] Let us hope then that the OASIS Foundation has the backing / balls toenforce this rule.
Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek) Posted Sep 16, 2005 7:15 UTC (Fri) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link] I think, basically, all the OASIS group have to do is publish the DTD.
ANYBODY can then test a document to see whether it is well-formed and valid, and if MS-Office starts producing faulty documents then everyone will know where the blame lies.
It's a bit difficult for MS to do even the second E when any Tom, Dick or Harry can spot it. Especially as Mass. requirements are that the format should be stable and non-changing.
Cheers,
Microsoft Challenges Massachusetts on Open-Format Plan (eWeek) Posted Sep 16, 2005 8:52 UTC (Fri) by hingo (guest, #14792) [Link] Nope. You can be fully compliant with a DTD or Schema, but still position everything wrong when the document is viewed in your word processor.Similarly, no amount of testing can guarantee 100% interoperability. That's like there could be an automated test that guarantees there are no bugs in your software. I'm sure whatever certification process OASIS has in place, a hundred well paid MS engineers can easily implement an Open Document filter that passes the tests but is useless for interoperability purposes.
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