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UserLinux: AutopsyUserLinux has been for all practical purposes dead for months now. The most immediate points of failure and a brief history were covered in last week's edition of LWN. There were no messages on the UserLinux list for over 30 days, ending when the thread titled "Anyone still alive" was started on September 3rd. UserLinux today is a non-issue and of little worth other than to learn from. I spent a notable amount of time on this project, writing the Mission Statement and other key components. Though UserLinux has failed, at least I gained some worthwhile experience. As with other failures, there are things to be learned from an autopsy after death. Points of failure for UserLinuxInability to deliver productThe immediate cause of death was an inability to deliver software. Today
there still is no real delivered product, over three months after the
release of Debian Sarge. A common claim was that UserLinux would have a
release out about a day after the Debian Sarge release and when
this didn't happen, confidence decreased for the project.
Untimely delay of Debian Sarge releaseThere was an artificial delay in the move towards the initial 1.0 release
and this had a notable, but non-fatal effect on the project. This was not
the ultimate cause of death, however, and delivering as promised a short
time after the Debian Sarge release would have livened the project back
up.
Lack of roadmapsThe "when it is ready" mantra is not sufficient for a lot of people. They
want an estimated schedule to look at and an idea of where things are
headed. Even if one is looking at third party development, or in the case
of UserLinux, there is an overlap of developers between the project and
Debian, confidence goes up if time estimates are made. People are used to
roadmaps and popular projects such as Mozilla Firefox (roadmap) and OpenOffice.org
(Roadmap) use
roadmaps as do many commercial software vendors. Yes, roadmaps are often inaccurate, but like weather forecasts,
people like an idea of what is going to happen in the future, even if
the forecast
is imperfect. It helps in planning, which is especially nice if
a migration is being considered. Given that an area of interest for
UserLinux was to encourage migration from Microsoft platforms,
roadmaps would have been very beneficial.
Late on departmentalizing into teamsThere was no serious effort to divide the project into teams until about 10 months after the project started. The lack of teams encouraged problems with naming and engineering focus. NamingNot much went right with the name. The name was a nonproductive distraction to the project that was never fixed.
Overall Team Lesson: Departmentalization should have been done earlier. Teams help keep people focused on where their strengths are. IT ProblemsMultiple downtimes for the list seriously hurt participation, as did an
obnoxious amount of spamming on the wiki that could have been handled much
better and more swiftly.
Group mentality baggageUsing KDE as a desktop environment alone or with GNOME was not in the best interest of the project for a variety of reasons, but some would propose that not including both desktop environments was unfair to the developers of both environments. Here is an example from the mailing list: I think we (ok, not especially me, but the people involved in UserLinux)
don't have the right to prefer one of the two big DE projects over the
other.
Wrong. The real injustice is to force feed extra software with the
associated bulk, security risk, and training because one group of people
thinks that if their software isn't force-fed needlessly on users there is
some injustice occurring. Of course, the real injustice is not looking out
for the best interest of the people using the software. Put the people
using the software first. The focus on a developers-first attitude was
particularly disturbing to me. More recent announcements like the
Subversion team recommending against use of Subversion for the Linux
Kernel development team show this is not a universal problem for all free software. Outside of KDE, UserLinux really didn't have many of these problems. My introduction to KDE, outside of running KDE occasionally as a desktop environment, was people on the list speaking out for KDE like in the example above.
Lessons:
Things done rightConceptThe concept of a non-commercial distribution with a limited set of software accompanied by certifications and ISV support is superb. The ultimate failure was in delivery. Some of the other ailments above could have possibly been solved over time. The idea was not the failure, it was the implementation. Specialized work teamsDepartmentalizing is a good idea even though it was accomplished too late and not sufficiently strong. Mark ProtectionThe Mark Protection Policy is an excellent idea. UserLinux software packages should have been named with separation from the UserLinux name earlier than they were, and the Policy itself should have been written better, but the idea is excellent. I strongly recommend Mark Protection for free software projects. Non-software organizations have learned the value of this from abuses many years ago, and it is about time free software did too. Mozilla's Firefox has protections in place today which is encouraging. Abuses like what has occurred with Debian's open use mark, as mentioned in the UserLinux Mark Protection Policy, need to be stopped. InternationalizationIt is most impressive how people from throughout the world will translate something of interest if given the chance to contribute. For example, the UserLinux Mission Statement is available in over 10 languages. In retrospect, this was the most delightful surprise from working on this project. Mission StatementThis helped people focus on the task at hand and helped explain the purpose of the project quickly to people who would hopefully consider migrating to UserLinux in the future. The road aheadUbuntu has largely grown into the simple, effective distribution UserLinux hoped to be. UserLinux is currently hoping for resurrection. This seems unlikely. The largest differences between UserLinux and Ubuntu are how they are funded and how the groups behind each distribution are designed to function. Beyond that, provided Ubuntu remains a streamlined distribution, remains free, includes a notable ISV support network, and provides a reasonable certification program. Ubuntu will largely deliver on the UserLinux Mission Statement: Provide businesses with freely available, high quality Linux operating
systems accompanied by certifications, service, and support options
designed to encourage productivity and security while reducing overall
costs.
Time will tell if Canonical will have commercial success with Ubuntu. They already have made successful inroads into the early adopter market. If they can cross the chasm into the early mainstream desktop market adoption, they should be quite successful delivering custom OEM install packages, certification services, and high-end customization and support services. Key areas for success will be getting large OEM PC manufacturers to create serious offerings with Ubuntu, establishing standards and tests for certifications, and getting a network of Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) behind Ubuntu Linux. This will not be an easy task, but it is doable. (Log in to post comments)
UserLinux: Autopsy Posted Sep 15, 2005 1:35 UTC (Thu) by smitty_one_each (subscriber, #28989) [Link] >Group mentality baggageIt boils down to leadership. A BDFL is beautiful, and gets stuff done. R, Chris
Show me the code! Posted Sep 15, 2005 7:42 UTC (Thu) by hingo (subscriber, #14792) [Link] Great article! This is a topic I'm especially interested in: why os projects succeed or why they fail. UserLinux in particular has been interesting to follow.Personally, I've always thought that UserLinux' fate could be seen already in the way the project was started. Bruce simply did it the wrong way. (Sorry Bruce, who would have known...) If we compare with Ubuntu and virtually all other distributions that exist today, they always code first, then start with announcing something that exists, that then will further be be improved. What happens when you do thing's the UserLinux way is, you get a lot of people to join your mailing list. These people are interested in discussing what an ideal distribution should look like or what it's name should be. The people interested in trying out your distribution (also known as developers and users!) have nothing to get from you. In shortyou attract the wrong kind of people. It was clear that this group would not succeed in delivering a serious distribution. Same is true for the name thing. Once you pick a name, be prepared that it will stick no matter how bad it is. Without a BDFL, no amount of mailing list discussions will ever get the name changed. For the same reasons I disagree with the KDE analysis above. You brought this problem on yourself. You invited people to debate the issue of which DE is the better one! And even worse, to pick the only one to be used. For me personally, as a KDE user but not developer, this was the junction after which I knew for sure, that even if UserLinux might have ever delivered something, I would never use it. This is what the people on the mailing list have tried to explain to you, even though I wasn't one of them. (I just stuck with my current distro that provides a good KDE desktop, which again is a better thing to do than to whine on a mailing list.) That's what you wanted, that's what you got. Again, compare to Canonical. They made a decision only to provide Gnome, even before anyone knew about Ubuntu. When Ubuntu came out, that's what it had. That posed a challenge to KDE fans. They knew no amount of crying on a mailing list would change things, but they could accept the challenge and produce an Ubuntu with KDE -> Kubuntu. Now people can try both and actually decide for themselves whether one is better than the other. Again, if you have something to say, show me the code. In short, UserLinux was an experiment in design by committee. I don't blame Bruce for anything though. I agree with the view he then held, that he is the person who could do this kind of thing. Now that he couldn't do it, we just know that the concept really doesn't work. (Which we kind of knew already.)
Show me the code! Posted Sep 15, 2005 8:33 UTC (Thu) by ryanthiessen (guest, #29436) [Link] In addition to what you say, even as a Gnome fan I could see that Bruce tilted the "debate" from the very start to produce a Gnome selection. I think you are correct, if only one was to be chosen it would have been healthier had the choosing been overtly done very the very start. Then it would have attracted and detracted from the start instead of alienating much of the interested parties.
Show me the code! (UserLinux) Posted Sep 15, 2005 21:41 UTC (Thu) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] Good analysis!Something always bothered me about UserLinux, but I could never really put my finger on it, tho you'll see me trying as far back as the comments to the original LWN announcements on it. Finally, you put your finger on it. My complaints centered around the fact that it seemed to me like it was developed mainly over a case of bad feelings over RH's moves, and I thought that was the wrong reason/way to go about founding a distribution, but I couldn't point out /why/ it seemed that way to me. Your analysis supplies the missing causative: at the root, I was uncomfortable with all the pronouncements, without even the beginnings of the code behind them to lend them support. The result was that of the pointing finger effect -- a message (unintended and entirely innocent I'm sure) of willingness to condemn someone else without being willing to "walk the talk". So.. I'm glad you were able to put your finger on what I could never quite figure out... Meanwhile, the practical effect on the project was much as you outlined. A project being born without code and without even many of the underlying assumptions worked out was an invitation for all sorts of idealists and do-gooders to sign up, while both by the same token and from the result of the first, proving rather repellent to the practical sorts of folks that would have preferred to simply dig-in and get to work, leaving the debating for others. As for the KDE stuff... as with you, I'm a KDE user, and knew as soon as I saw the project favoring Gnome over KDE, that it wasn't something I'd be interested in. However, apparently unlike many, I didn't go join the list and argue the point. Rather, I simply wrote it off as something not worth trying -- unless it developed a KDE version. OTOH, given GNOME's very public targeting of the "simple" user, one who gets confused by too many config options and the like, as well as the LGPL licensing vs. Qt/KDE's GPL licensing, GNOME may have been better for the "locked down corporate desktop" types as well as the "inhouse and outsourced developed solutions" types (noting of course KDE's kiosk mode and the fact that the GPL wouldn't prevent proprietary development if it were to remain inhouse either, but GNOME will still seem a more "natural" fit to the PHB types that were a prime UserLinux target, in any case). That I /can/ admit. Such targets couldn't be farther from my own interest, granted, the reason I wasn't personally interested for my own use, but they'd be better for UserLinux's target market, it being what it was. In any case, it would seem that the community has yet another example of how "design by committee" doesn't work so well. Design the specs first, within a much smaller limited non-public group, or just let them evolve naturally from the initial code, but in any case, get that initial code OUT THERE, BEFORE the public announcement. THEN make the announcement, and if the code and concept (or even just the code) are good, and particularly if they uniquely fill a niche that no other product out there fills (as arguably was the case for UserLinux when it was announced), the users and further developers WILL come. The latter assumption, provide even a rudimentary but unique solution filling a need, and they WILL come, has after all been demonstrated time and again within the FLOSS community, and is to a large degree what it's all about. All IMO, FWIW... Duncan
Show me the code! (UserLinux) Posted Sep 16, 2005 9:18 UTC (Fri) by hingo (subscriber, #14792) [Link] Coming from you, I'm truly humbled by such words.Anyway, once again thanks to lwn and the author for the article itself. This was so much more interesting than seeing screenshots of yet another distribution.
Show me the code! Posted Sep 15, 2005 22:40 UTC (Thu) by gallir (subscriber, #5735) [Link] I second your KDE analysis.And also deeply disagree the comparison of a desktop with SMTP or database servers of the original article. Servers, especially those that have a well known and widely used standard interface like SMPT, only affect how programs interact. But GUI desktops affect how the _users_ interact with the computer. Those who chose just one desktop over the other are the ones not thinking in users. After reading the article I had the feeling that KDE "promoters" received more blaming that deserved.
Show me the code! Posted Sep 16, 2005 7:02 UTC (Fri) by frazier (subscriber, #3060) [Link] But GUI desktops affect how the _users_ interact with the computer. Those who chose just one desktop over the other are the ones not thinking in users.Why? Please explain.
Show me the code! Posted Sep 16, 2005 13:44 UTC (Fri) by gallir (subscriber, #5735) [Link] A user wouldn't realise a change of theMTA (Postfix or Exim), but she does realise any change from Kmail to others MUAs. The same, if not more, applies to the desktop environment: it is another program. Users don't care about the MTA running in their computers, but they do care about the programs they use every day. By selecting one desktop you are taking lot of decisions for the user, not for improving her/his direct experiencie, but due to legal --licences?-- or technical reasons --easier to maintain?--. Hence, adopting just one of the two major users' desktop environment and simultaneously accusing KDE developers of taking care only developers' interests is contradictory, to say the least.
Show me the code! Posted Sep 16, 2005 17:12 UTC (Fri) by frazier (subscriber, #3060) [Link] By selecting one desktop you are taking lot of decisions for the user, not for improving her/his direct experienceActually, making those decisions simplifies the experience, making it better for them. It is important to remember that:
Most people really don't want to use computers, they really just want to accomplish things and the computer is a tool they use. They don't particularily like them, they aren't an interest or a hobby, and they don't follow news for them more than they have to. More software is not in the interest of the less technical user or businesses in general. From the UserLinux perspective, look at the mission statement:
service, and support options
designed to encourage productivity
and security
while reducing overall costs.
Show me the code! Posted Sep 25, 2005 22:47 UTC (Sun) by dkite (guest, #4577) [Link] Great ideas. It didn't work.UserLinux made a so basic mistake, a fundamental misunderstanding of FOSS that surprised me considering the reputation and background of it's backers. Free software is only about users when the users can provide a contribution. UserLinux started off by alienating at least 1/2 of the developer base of free software. UserLinux depended on contribution. Very bad start. UserLinux attempted to define the free software user experience by excluding worthy projects and their developers. Bad idea. It was very predictable. Anyone who used or contributed or thought highly of any of the excluded packages were uninterested. Not only uninterested, but actively excluded by comments similar to yours. So the project died. Ubuntu could afford to pick favorites because they hired the help, and didn't depend on contributions. I for one, who contributes substantially to FOSS, was insulted by the whole presentation and philosophy behind UserLinux. It wasn't for me, and actively questioned the morality of my contributions. So I, along with many others, didn't contribute. Derek
UserLinux: Autopsy Posted Sep 15, 2005 10:19 UTC (Thu) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link] <sarcasm>Nice autopsy, where's the corpse? </sarcasm>
UserLinux: Autopsy
OT: (purely visual) style remark Posted Sep 15, 2005 12:52 UTC (Thu) by vblum (guest, #1151) [Link] A very nice and illuminating analysis. Just one nagging little comment: I felt that the many big bold non-LWN style headings and sub-headings, with sometimes rather little text inbetween, distracted me significantly from the actual text - scarcer use of those elements would have improved the (purely visual) readability for me.
OT: (purely visual) style remark Posted Sep 15, 2005 17:45 UTC (Thu) by kreutzm (subscriber, #4700) [Link] Definitly seconded. An article should follow the general layout of the site. I was quite astonished, why someone was shouting, especially since the headers getting larger in the middle of the article (usually the largest fonts are used at the top, not for sub-headings).
OT: (purely visual) style remark Posted Sep 15, 2005 20:02 UTC (Thu) by frazier (subscriber, #3060) [Link] Yeah, it's pretty bad once it is layed in the page, that was my first impression too. I didn't see it with everything else until it was published last night.
I wrote the article needing three levels of headers and thus used H1, H2, and H3 for those (H4 is typicaly rendered smaller than the regular text). If I could do it again, I'd have a CSS class for the article that gave the article's headings smaller sizes. The H1 and H2 are overbearing, and the article's section headings are larger than the title for the article, unfortunately.
So yeah, it does look like it's yelling but that was not the intent. Sorry about that.
-Brock
UserLinux: Autopsy Posted Sep 15, 2005 16:43 UTC (Thu) by cjwatson (subscriber, #7322) [Link] I'm also inclined to say: if you have a major external blocker, help do something about it! I was on the Debian release team for sarge, and we saw hardly any help (perhaps a few messages on bugs) from anyone identifying or recognised as being connected with UserLinux. It would have seemed to be an obvious strategy to help out with the thing that was UL's primary cause for delay - but that just didn't seem to happen.
International Translations Posted Sep 15, 2005 19:22 UTC (Thu) by Alan_Hicks (subscriber, #20469) [Link] It is most impressive how people from throughout the world will translate something of interest if given the chance to contribute. I have to second to his whole-heartedly. A short while after publishing Slackware Linux Essentials second edition on the web and in book format, I made a post on the web page asking all third parties interested in translating the book to another language to contact me. The results have been tremendous! At this time, most of the translation efforts are in a sort of infant stage, but that is to be expected so early in a project with so much to do.
UserLinux: Autopsy Posted Sep 16, 2005 17:39 UTC (Fri) by diehl (guest, #6413) [Link] I'm probably a curmugeon, but I am not dully upset by the demise ofUserLinux. I think the Linux world spends too much time creating new distributions, and not enough time creating polished applications. Put another way, I think the wider acceptance of Linux would be better served by have more and better applications, as opposed to creating yet more (nearly identical) distributions. In reality, distributions all use the same basic software, and differ only in some administration and software packaging tools, and perhaps application emphasis. There is no lack of choices in the distributions that already exist, and most can be easily customized to one's individual needs. If we would like to attract more users to Linux we need to increase the range and quality of the application software. This is not to say that there are not already some great applications in Linux, but we could certainly use more. Of course, in free software people work on whatever they want, and can't be dictated to. Fine. However, if you like to promote free software and make an impact then I would suggest that application development would be much more fruitful, rather than putting together the 725th Debian-derived distribution.
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