Vnunet covers Dell chief
executive Michael Dell's pro-Linux keynote address at the recent Gartner
symposium. ""We see a lot of customers who have developed Unix
applications moving to Linux," he said. "Chief information officers have
said that they knew Linux would cost less, but were surprised that it
performed better.""
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Dell on Linux and Tablets (vnunet)
Posted Nov 11, 2002 20:42 UTC (Mon) by proski (subscriber, #104)
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Michael Dell can praise Linux as much as he wants, but last time I
checked, it was impossible to buy a Dell notebook without Windows.
Not only that, but they have links to Microsoft everywhere
(Dell PCs use genuine Microsoft www.microsoft.com/piracy/howtotell)
but they don't have similar links to the vendors of other
software (WordPerfect) and hardware (Intel processor).
Like IBM, Dell seems to be interested in Linux on servers only.
When it comes to home users, Dell is fine with forcing some other OS
down their throats. They even show pride in using a genuine OS from
a genuine convicted monopolist.
Dell on Linux and Tablets (vnunet)
Posted Nov 12, 2002 7:18 UTC (Tue) by danielos (subscriber, #6053)
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I think it's not so strange, linux desktop is still not exactly ready, there are lot of thing that need to be fixed and standardized. Now there are 2 main desktop environment KDE and GNOME, none of which is complete, so, if you want to make a demostration you have to flot between the one and the other functionality. This without mention that KDE and GNOME are not compatible.
A good desktop system is the one where you can do almost all by point-and-click and minimal hit on keyboard, and you never need to spawn a terminal emulator, where X windows system never become unusable for overload and where there is an integrated (component based) office suite. KDE is very near to the goal, GNOME2 is a bit late. (but I'm not so sure, no flame here).
BTW, me too, I can't give a good vote to Linux Desktop. (I'm sorry for that)
Dell on Linux and Tablets (vnunet)
Posted Nov 12, 2002 9:41 UTC (Tue) by frazier (guest, #3060)
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While I agree I haven't seen a fully polished desktop Linux distribution with a complete desktop environment (Lycoris and Red Hat are making strides that direction), I understand what the top poster is getting at, which is wanting laptop hardware from a hardware manufacturer without paying for unneeded software.
I hope people cash in on the Windows refund stuff. You shouldn't have to do that, though.
Dell on Linux and Tablets (vnunet)
Posted Nov 12, 2002 19:16 UTC (Tue) by ctg (subscriber, #3459)
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It's ready for *my* desktop though... and I would like to be able to buy a laptop either with no operating system, or with the option of paying extra to have one pre-installed etc. And I would like a reasonable choice of operating systems. And proper licences so that I could move any operating system to another machine, should I see fit.
Dell on Linux and Tablets (vnunet)
Posted Nov 12, 2002 10:36 UTC (Tue) by Peter (guest, #1127)
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This without mention that KDE and GNOME are not compatible.
How are they not compatible?
And what has that to do with the fact that
I still can't buy a Dell laptop without paying for either Windows 2000 or
Windows XP?
Dell on Linux and Tablets (vnunet)
Posted Nov 12, 2002 13:22 UTC (Tue) by dotnick (guest, #7675)
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IMHO, Linux using kde or gnome is just as ready as Windows is. Sure there are flaws, but there are flaws in the Windows(every version) GUI too. Those flaws, which are usually minor in a public release shouldn't keep Linux off the desktop.
Linux is ready......and has been for some time.
Dell on Linux and Tablets (vnunet)
Posted Nov 12, 2002 13:59 UTC (Tue) by proski (subscriber, #104)
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Your post is a troll of course, but one point needs to be made.
I don't need a demonstration if I buy the laptop online.
In fact, I don't want to have any OS preinstalled,
no matter whether it's ready or not. I don't want Dell charging me for
something I can easily do myself.