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Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy") preview released
The Ubuntu 5.10 preview release is
available; it can be had in both installable and live CD forms. Additions
include GNOME 2.12, some new administrative tools, installation onto LVM
volumes, the OCFS2 and GFS filesystems, the 2.6.12.5 kernel, further
improved laptop support, and more. Once again, they will mail you a copy
of the final release (when available) if you ask. For KDE users, the Kubuntu 5.10 preview is also available.
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Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy") preview released Posted Sep 9, 2005 13:19 UTC (Fri) by csamuel (subscriber, #2624) [Link] Hmm, installation onto LVM volumes worked fine for me with 5.04 (Hoary) ona number of boxes! Perhaps it wasn't supported and I didn't realise.. ;-)
Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy") preview released Posted Sep 9, 2005 14:04 UTC (Fri) by busterb (subscriber, #560) [Link] I always have to create a separate EXT2 /boot partition to run / on an LVM volume. GRUB/LILO seem to have trouble installing if I do not. Do they mean that a separate /boot partition is no longer required?
Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy") preview released Posted Sep 9, 2005 15:15 UTC (Fri) by syndicate (guest, #27535) [Link] Nope, you still need /boot on a partition that's not LVM.
/boot on LVM with 5.04 Hoary works Posted Sep 9, 2005 22:19 UTC (Fri) by csamuel (subscriber, #2624) [Link] My computer (and my laptop) would beg to differ there! Disk /dev/sda: 73.4 GB, 73406611456 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 8924 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 8924 71681998+ 8e Linux LVM The trick is that Grub doesn't appear to be able to handle booting from an LVM'd /boot, but LILO can. In fact the installer took care of that decision for me. On the one system I've built with a /boot outside of LVM the installer used Grub. Even swap is on an LVM here. :-) Chris
/boot on LVM with 5.04 Hoary works Posted Sep 10, 2005 3:04 UTC (Sat) by busterb (subscriber, #560) [Link] I have never had that work when using 3Ware raid controllers. I think that LILO's functioning is somewhat controller-specific, though I never really analyzed it much.
/boot on LVM with 5.04 Hoary works Posted Sep 10, 2005 8:25 UTC (Sat) by csamuel (subscriber, #2624) [Link] The working config I listed is with an Adaptec I2O style card and a RAID-5array.
Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy") preview released Posted Sep 9, 2005 14:21 UTC (Fri) by cjwatson (subscriber, #7322) [Link] The announcement was unfortunately a little unclear. The relevant change is in the *automatic* partitioning tool, where LVM functionality has been added (partman-auto-lvm, originally developed by Skolelinux).
Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy") preview released Posted Sep 9, 2005 22:25 UTC (Fri) by csamuel (subscriber, #2624) [Link] Aha, that makes much more sense, I had to go in and use the advanced tool to set it up under Hoary. I find it's miles better than using the old primary/extended method, especially when you use XFS instead of ext2/3 so you can extend partitions whilst they're mounted and in use. I never allocate all my disk space up front these days, I find it's far easier to create LV's for projects on the fly and then either extend them if needed or delete them (and return them to the pool) when not.
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 9, 2005 16:43 UTC (Fri) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link] can i change my apt sources to get an update over apt-get?
are there instructions for this?
is it even recommended yet?
if i press an ISO, will it play nice and upgrade my existing installation?
thanks for any answers
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 9, 2005 19:03 UTC (Fri) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link] Yes, you can.
No, it's not recommended yet. Unless you want to be a tester you should wait until the real release, which will happen in October.
Re: upgrading from an ISO... you could do it I think. You wouldn't boot off of it, like for a normal install. Instead you'd set your apt sources to check the CDROM, then put it into your drive and upgrade. In effect you're replacing a network download with a CDROM repository.
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 9, 2005 19:15 UTC (Fri) by richo123 (guest, #24309) [Link] It is fairly stable at present from my experience however there are still a few irritating glitches. I find it soothing to apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade every day to see all the bug fixes coming up the pike.
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 10, 2005 11:28 UTC (Sat) by ncm (subscriber, #165) [Link] Dependencies are the bete noire of Debian packages. Most are OK, but the GNOME packagers seem to have more trouble than most. The package for gnome-system-monitor in Ubuntu breezy, for instance, doesn't list the dependency on libgtop. As a category, the Gstreamer suite has to be the worst-packaged of anything I've installed. (I don't try to install KDE, PHP, Apache, or anything Java; there could easily be worse categories I don't know about!) There's this "gst-register" command you're supposed to run after installing things, that the package scripts don't. The packages routinely omit important dependencies. The gstreamer code is probably great, but it never seems to get to a fully working state on my systems.It's not hard to understand how stuff gets away from them: ldd on gnome-system-monitor lists 68 shared libraries it uses! Rhythmbox, 64. For my own code, I get nervous when the number goes over 4, so I'll never be a GUI coder.
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 11, 2005 17:58 UTC (Sun) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link] I don't know about Ubuntu, but in Debian, GStreamer plugin postinst scripts definitely run gst-register.
Some repositories outside of Debian, maintained by non-DDs, don't do this. Those packages are generally legally-questionable support for non-free formats anyway.
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 11, 2005 19:53 UTC (Sun) by micampe (guest, #4384) [Link] Hmm... I need a linked list but I already have four dynamic libraries liked in here... better rewrite it.
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 10, 2005 5:18 UTC (Sat) by doclivingston (guest, #32374) [Link] You can update with apt-get over the net by changing "hoary" to "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list.
Ifyou insert a newer Ubuntu CD, it will ask whether you want to automatically upgrade.
upgrading an existing installation Posted Sep 11, 2005 6:27 UTC (Sun) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link] thanks, worked like a charm the first time, no issues.
Ubuntu 5.10 ("Breezy") preview released Posted Sep 16, 2005 10:09 UTC (Fri) by mab (subscriber, #314) [Link] I'll be happy if we can just get a distro that iPodder works out of the box with :) Please make it so.
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