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IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

The Register covers the IBM version of the Windows vs Linux TCO comparison. "IBM is kicking some total cost of ownership (TCO) dirt in Microsoft's face, releasing a numbers survey that claims Linux is cheaper to deploy and manage than Windows. An IBM-sponsored Robert Frances Group study found it is 40 per cent cheaper to buy, implement and run an application server on an x86 server running Linux than on a similar server running Windows. Robert Frances polled IT executives at 20 mid-sized and large companies with 250 or more employees."
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IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 1, 2005 21:07 UTC (Thu) by trutkin (guest, #3919) [Link]

How is this any different from the Microsoft funded studies that show that Windows is cheaper?
Because it's what we want to hear?

IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 1, 2005 21:16 UTC (Thu) by havoc (guest, #2261) [Link]

Uh, no. Maybe because IBM sells both systems?

IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 1, 2005 21:26 UTC (Thu) by rev (guest, #15082) [Link]

Get the report.. analyze it conntents and see if it is biased, setup to support a a-prori conclusion, or compares apples to oranges like the MS funded "studies" do.

IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 1, 2005 21:29 UTC (Thu) by xtifr (subscriber, #143) [Link]

One notable difference: IBM is admitting up front that they paid for this study, rather than trying to pretend that it's an "independent" study, as MS did until they were called on it.

I agree, there's no reason for any sensible, intelligent person to take this any more seriously than any of the MS-funded studies. On the other hand, some people <em>do</em> take the MS-funded studies seriously, and this may give them something to think about.

IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 1, 2005 23:48 UTC (Thu) by hchristeller (subscriber, #4246) [Link]

It doesn't matter if people believe the IBM-sponsored study. What matters is if it leads people to doubt the Microsoft-sponsored study.

Many people will blindly accept assertions if they never hear anything contrary. IBM has given the typical risk-averse manager a reason to say: "Let's look at both sides."

Yeah, a one-dimensional "both sides" view is too simplistic, but getting people past a zero-dimensional view is the hard part.

IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 3, 2005 2:38 UTC (Sat) by wilreichert (subscriber, #17680) [Link]

Nice to see some anti-M$ FUD thrown back in their face but I have to admit its equally as worthless. The statistics that make up the fiction known as TCO can be skewered any which direction. No one can take a generalized study and use it as fact for any particular company, everyone has slightly different cirsumstances to be dealt with.

IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 3, 2005 14:33 UTC (Sat) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

Nice to see some anti-M$ FUD thrown back in their face but I have to admit its equally as worthless.

Nope. It's iportant tool.

The statistics that make up the fiction known as TCO can be skewered any which direction.

You know this. I know this. Pointy-Haired Boss does not know this. And "Microsoft is big and successfull company - they know better". If you'll show study done by other seccessfull company - it'll make you point (you must measure TCO by yourself - every company is different) more believable.

Remember: most peoples who are not IT-professionals do not see Microsoft as dirty company without morals - they still think it's honest yet successfull company who thinks about client needs first!

IBM gets own facts out for Linux v Windows (the Register)

Posted Sep 8, 2005 8:48 UTC (Thu) by ekj (subscriber, #1524) [Link]

Yes. But that's not the point.

If everyone knew that, everyone would ignore "TCO" studies and instead look into the actual facts in their own company. If they did that, it'd be a win for Linux overall.

Unfortunately though, quite a few managers *don't* know that, and take the MS funded studies as some sort of indication that Windows has a generally lower TCO.

What this study does is not proove that Linux has a lower TCO. Like we all know, one can usually get the results one want from such studies.

What it *does* do is present the fact that there is no such thing as a general, realistic way of estimating TCO of various solutions.

In the best case, it'll make a few managers think: The MS study shows Windows is cheaper. The IBM study shows Linux is cheaper. Maybe there *is* no clear-cut fits-all answer and we need to actually think for ourselves, let me go have a talk with my engineers.

If it can achieve that, it's a useful thing indeed.

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