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GTK+ 2.8.0 released

GTK+ 2.8.0 released

Posted Aug 14, 2005 17:14 UTC (Sun) by mikachu (guest, #5333)
In reply to: GTK+ 2.8.0 released by Zarathustra
Parent article: GTK+ 2.8.0 released

If it's so important that you have only those two keybindings and no more, make your own keybind rc file, it's not that hard if you look at the emacs one and just copy parts.


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GTK+ 2.8.0 released

Posted Aug 14, 2005 23:53 UTC (Sun) by Zarathustra (guest, #26443) [Link]

I already tried, when I failed miserably to get the expected ^U behavior(delete from cursor to start of line, not the whole line, not from cursor to end of line), I asked for help in the #gtk channel of irc.gimp.org, a very nice person there tried to help me, until we hit a comment in the GTK source saying something like "XXX I'm not sure what this function is supposed to do", so we gave up too, that prompted me to quote Al Viro:

"Infinitely extendable API" and all such. Roughly translated as "we can't live without API bloat". Frankly, judging by the GNOME codebase the people who designed GNOME are culturally incompatible with UNIX.

Which got me banned from the irc.gimp.org network for about a year. Now that is what I call user friendly.

Despite that, I filled a bug report that includes the gtkrc file that most approximated the standard Unix behavior. The bug was "Resolved" as "notabug".

The lack of respect for Unix that the GTK developers show is amazing, not to mention that they don't care for X standards either, Ion, wmii and other window managers have all sorts of problems due to GTK braindamage. See for example the Ion FAQ.

If GTK and Gnome developers care so lite for Unix and X, why don't they switch to another operating system?

Yes, I have a gtkrc file now that gives a somewhat similar behavior to what one would expect of Unix, but I have to install it on every computer and account I use, and most GTK applications still close the window on ^W if not inside a text field, certainly not what any Unix user would expect.

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