Posted Aug 5, 2005 19:56 UTC (Fri) by jonth (subscriber, #4008)
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Because it's an open source game that runs on Linux?
Odd
Posted Aug 5, 2005 20:06 UTC (Fri) by marduk (subscriber, #3831)
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Admittedly I haven't put too much thought into it, but it appears to be a news item related to Linux/OSS for which LWN has been known to post every now and then.
Odd
Posted Aug 5, 2005 21:05 UTC (Fri) by ncm (subscriber, #165)
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An announcement of a new game (or other program) that runs on Linux might merit mention, if it seemed particularly interesting. A decision by a game vendor to release Linux versions of future games coincident with other platforms would be news. Even Linus winning a gaming tournament might be news. A review of a (barely even mediocre) shoot-em-up hardly seems like news.
Did Slashdot reject the squib, and it ended up here?
Odd
Posted Aug 5, 2005 21:18 UTC (Fri) by marduk (subscriber, #3831)
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So because you don't find a particular item interesting should be considered when an article is worthy of being on LWN? Perhaps you should contact LWN directly; there may be a desire to have you on their staff.
Odd
Posted Aug 5, 2005 23:33 UTC (Fri) by ncm (subscriber, #165)
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Slashdot ran a squib on June 3, when Nexiuz was announced. If it wasn't News then, what makes it News a full two months later?
Slashdot is much better at keeping up on the gaming milieu. Anyone interested in gaming certainly doesn't rely on LWN to keep current. LWN's strengths lie elsewhere, are unique, and won't benefit from lost focus.
Q.E.D., odd. Not criminal, not immoral, just odd. Maybe a headline like "Free Software Gaming's Corpse Twitches" would have have put it in context.
Odd
Posted Aug 5, 2005 21:22 UTC (Fri) by rknop (guest, #66)
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Well, it wouldn't be news if it weren't for the fact that the whole Linux gaming scene has been utterly and completely moribound since the death of Loki Games. (Except for Wine stuff, which LWN does talk about.)
As such, anything going on in there may be interesting.
-Rob
Re: Odd
Posted Aug 5, 2005 22:48 UTC (Fri) by einstein (subscriber, #2052)
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utterly and completely moribund since the demise of loki
Return to Castle Wolfenstein?
Enemy Territory?
America's Army?
Unreal Tournament 2004?
Doom 3?
That's a really wicked slam against icculus and others.
More:
Posted Aug 6, 2005 5:01 UTC (Sat) by rqosa (guest, #24136)
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Posted Aug 6, 2005 9:36 UTC (Sat) by dwheeler (subscriber, #1216)
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Actually, I'm glad this info was posted on LWN, even if the game itself was panned.
Multiplayer first-person-shooters (FPS) are an incredibly popular genre. Here we have an FPS that (a) runs on Linux, and (b) is open source software; that's a rare combo. I haven't researched it, but it may be unique. Strategy games don't count, and I think many FPSers would think that tank games like BZFlag aren't the same thing either. FPSs aren't really my thing, but do not ignore them. They're an important market force; they are one of the commercial main drivers for today's graphics cards.
And frankly, I think the reviewer is a little harsh. I doubt the developers consider it "done", and as good as games 5 years ago, that's pretty darn impressive. People paid serious money to run the FPSs of 5 years ago.
I'm glad this info was posted on LWN.
Posted Aug 6, 2005 19:08 UTC (Sat) by ncm (subscriber, #165)
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I guess uniqueness qualifies for LWN's attention. I had no idea that Doom 3 had not already been networked, years ago.
Posted Aug 7, 2005 15:49 UTC (Sun) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435)
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Doom3 isn't open source... Yet... Given Carmack's history, though, there's
a high probability it WILL be one day... Already, Doom1/2 is, Quake1/2 is,
Wolfenstein3D is... And, Carmack has said he really wants to open source
Quake3 sometime RSN... So, this particular game in question is most
definitely NOT unique in being an open source first-person shooter that runs
on Linux... Linux has had FPS games running on it for as long as they've
existed, really... And, the inventor of the genre (id Software) has both
ported all of their commercial games to Linux, as well as eventually open
sourced them, after a few years... So, the talk about Linux not having many
FPS games available is highly strange, since that's really the ONE genre
that Linux has had an overabundance of, if anything...
I'm glad this info was posted on LWN.
Posted Aug 8, 2005 9:19 UTC (Mon) by pontus (guest, #3701)
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'inventor of the genre' is a bit too much credit to id. Technically, Atari's Battle Zone from 1980 is a first-person shooter.
I'm glad this info was posted on LWN.
Posted Aug 8, 2005 10:23 UTC (Mon) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435)
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I don't really think it's too much credit... Sure there may have been
previous games with a first-person perspective, and pretty much ALL games
tend to boil down to shooters of some sort... But, honestly, nothing
I'm aware of pre-Wolf3D is at all comparable to it and all of the games that
came after it... Ie: you're in the role of a lone gunman, running around
a map on foot, trying to survive, and seeing everything from the perspective
of the character... That's the modern first-person shooter genre, and I'm
really not aware of any pre-id games that fall into that category... Even
if there are, then id are at least the popularizers of the genre, if not
its inventors... Either way, they are the spiritual fathers of the genre...
Odd
Posted Aug 5, 2005 20:59 UTC (Fri) by peace (guest, #10016)
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Maybe because the editors of LWN have been playing it 24/7 for the past week and now want to spank the readership?
That would be fun
Posted Aug 5, 2005 23:42 UTC (Fri) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)
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Imagine the scene:
corbet: "Take that, ncm!"
cook: "Haha allesfreser, got you!"
bodnar: "Fragged again! Now what, Leon? Feel like writing another letter?"
ris: "You are undone, peace, and by the way are you too cheap to subscribe?"
zonker: "Who is this 'man_ls', and why does 'it' keep beating me?"