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IBM steps into open-source Java project (News.com)IBM steps into open-source Java project (News.com)Posted Jul 21, 2005 23:33 UTC (Thu) by kune (subscriber, #172)In reply to: IBM steps into open-source Java project (News.com) by jayavarman Parent article: IBM steps into open-source Java project (News.com)
I've no issue with Classpath. Yes, indeed, they are not forcing any particular license for the JVM. The Classpath developers have chosen their license, have code to run, no FUD to spread here.
But honestly I've fear, uncertainty and doubt about the Harmony project. It might be just me, but I would at least have expected, that at this point in time, some experimental work with existing JVMs and Classpath would have been started. This is not the case and the only reason seems to be the licensing issue. But there seems to be the implicit constraint, that the Apache license must be used for all the components, at least by dual-licensing. For now Harmony is an open source project without source. I hope that will change rather sooner than later.
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IBM steps into open-source Java project (News.com) Posted Jul 22, 2005 1:59 UTC (Fri) by darthmdh (guest, #8032) [Link] For now Harmony is an open source project without source. I hope that will change rather sooner than later.I for one welcome our new designless implementation overlord! Seriously, while it will be good to have a fully open source, up-to-date and complete Java VM and related technologies; you don't just wake up one morning and code one, then go out for a cafe latte about 11am. Not one that will matter. Design should probably take at least as long as implementation, if not longer. I'd rather they coded nothing but got a very good design which is easily implemented at the right time. Some benefits of a good design will be the fact that since it is open source, many more people will be able to contribute to the project and a worthy product will be released closer to the timeframe everyone wants.
IBM steps into open-source Java project (News.com) Posted Jul 23, 2005 22:13 UTC (Sat) by rjw (guest, #10415) [Link] Sorry, but the waterfall process is pretty much discredited.http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WaterFall
GNU Classpath, Kaffe, gcj and harmony/apache collaboration Posted Jul 22, 2005 8:34 UTC (Fri) by mjw (subscriber, #16740) [Link] Things are slowly starting up. Apache has now setup Gump with Kaffe for automatic testing. See: http://gump.zones.apache.org/gump/kaffe/The scores are pretty bad atm, but that is mainly some pre-requirements like xerces having trouble. If you resolve those by hand the success rate jumps to 25% already. And this is already helping the current GNU Classpath and Kaffe integration effort: bootstrap ant is fixed now, thanks to Apache Gump and GNU Classpath. It't nice how gump helps even with merging. ;) And while setting up larger programs with gcj like Eclipse and Jonas there is a lot of Apache stuff already being integrated. See the package graphs
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