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OSDL's Linux Initiatives (O'ReillyNet)

There is a rather uncritical article on O'ReillyNet describing OSDL's specification efforts. "The intent of the group is to create a list of the capabilities that a desktop system must have to successfully address each of the usage models. Once the group understands and clearly documents the required capabilities, it then becomes possible to identify key inhibitors that are preventing successful adoption, as well as specific technologies that either are not present or have some deficiencies when applied to enterprise environments. Working with Linux distributors and existing open source development communities, and, if necessary, creating new development communities by way of OSDL SIGs, the group hopes to accelerate Linux development in the specific areas that will facilitate its adoption on the enterprise desktop."
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OSDL's Linux Initiatives (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Jul 15, 2005 17:16 UTC (Fri) by hch (guest, #5625) [Link]

No wonder that it's uncritical as it's written by OSDL employees. Mostly non-technical ones aswell.

OSDL's Linux Initiatives (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Jul 15, 2005 18:20 UTC (Fri) by aaron (subscriber, #282) [Link]

Holy mother of god that's some serious PHB-speak! I guess I should be thankful they aren't also "leveraging a new paradigm for solution-based deliverables" or something like that. I can't imagine John C. or Mary Edie writing like that; one of the OSDL's many marketroids must've doctored it up for 'em.

A kernel dev recently commented that the OSDL exists mainly to pay Linus and provide nifty compliance-logos for companies to slap on their products.

In 4.5 years, you'd think they'd have actually come up with, say, an easy-to-run, nicely-packaged HA clustered server distro. Something to show what Linux can do compared to proprietary PC-based HA clusters.

Oh well, it's not my money,
Aaron

CGL

Posted Jul 16, 2005 12:45 UTC (Sat) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link]

Holy mother of god that's some serious PHB-speak!

The first 2/3 of the article was about Carrier Grade Linux for Telecom applications, and yes, that is just the sort of tedious prose you always see when you look at higher-level presentations in telecom industry, whether it is about Linux or something else (personal experience; I work at a telecom equipment maker). But it is serious stuff: Carrier Grade Linux actually is being adopted as a platform by many big telecom equipment makers. It is well on its way of becoming the de-facto standard platform in that business, gradually supplanting various proprietary operating systems. (emphasis on "gradually": it is an industry, where installed systems are often maintained and upgraded for decades...)

In 4.5 years, you'd think they'd have actually come up with, say, an easy-to-run, nicely-packaged HA clustered server distro.

OSDL is intentionally not in the business of making distros, and anyway it would be a very bad idea to compete with its members.

OSDL's Linux Initiatives (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Jul 16, 2005 17:15 UTC (Sat) by stumbles (guest, #8796) [Link]

Usually when someone starts spouting about a new "pair a dime" it means
someone else has to cough up more quarters.

The Blind Leading the Deaf

Posted Jul 16, 2005 11:05 UTC (Sat) by lilo (guest, #661) [Link]

At first glance, it looks as if the working groups described are doing nothing useful. They're clearly not coding; they're not providing application documention or application-level specifications. What are they doing?

What they're doing, I think, is just asking questions like: "What does it take for end-users of various sorts to adopt GNU/Linux?" Do developers ask these questions? Sure. Are they always good at the required introspection about meeting end-user goals? Maybe not. It's good to have more people asking the questions. Maybe group B will uncover some issue that group A missed.

If community people don't think they're asking the right questions, or if we think they're asking the questions in the wrong way (for example, in the form of large, unrealistic adoption specifications), maybe we should be giving OSDL feedback. But, personally, I see this stumbling-around trying to make sure that everybody is really addressing the issues necessary for the adoption of GNU/Linux as being a very normal thing in the IT industry, and probably not a bad thing. They're just asking, "Are we missing anything?" Maybe they could use some help from community people in focusing their questions a bit better.

OSDL's Linux Initiatives (O'ReillyNet)

Posted Jul 19, 2005 23:38 UTC (Tue) by stock (guest, #5849) [Link]

Well ain't that sweet :) If the Microsoft FUD Marketing machine comes
along, please point them to the OSDL's Linux Initiatives, and get your
hands free to do some serious development and implementations using Linux
and OSS :)

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