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Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek)
eWeek
looks at plans for a new collaborative distribution effort
that will be based on Debian.
"Sources close to Mandriva, Progeny and Turbolinux say the trio of companies will be announcing a new enterprise Linux distribution based on Debian Linux at the LinuxWorld event in San Francisco in August.
This new enterprise distribution, which may include other companies as well, will be built on the foundation of the Debian 3.1 "Sarge" Linux distribution."
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Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 10, 2005 18:44 UTC (Sun) by alspnost (subscriber, #2763) [Link] Oh dear - not *another* one! Perhaps these guys could just team up with Bruce and the fledgling UserLinux, rather than fragmenting the "enterprise" market yet again....
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 10, 2005 19:03 UTC (Sun) by kornak (guest, #17589) [Link] I think that if you feel you have something unique to offer, then, by allmeans proceed. This is both the Linux's greatest strength and its greatest weakness. In the end, it is a natural process in which the best features trickle to the top. It is much like a natural evolutionary eco-system. I look forward to see what comes next!
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 10, 2005 19:49 UTC (Sun) by louie (subscriber, #3285) [Link] Ya know, your argument would be more persuasive if (1) this weren't a reduction of fragmentation, with three distros effectively becoming one, and (2) if userlinux had ever made a release.
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 10, 2005 21:33 UTC (Sun) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link] at this point it looks like userlinux has become a casualty of the release delays for sarge. I haven't heard anything about it for the last several months (and then it was 'help get sarge out'). I went looking a few days ago and wasn't able to figure out what the status of things are.
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 10, 2005 21:38 UTC (Sun) by louie (subscriber, #3285) [Link] Aside from Bruce promising (though I can't find a link now) that they were ready to release 'whenever sarge released', aka several weeks ago now, I don't think it bodes well for the future of an enterprise project if you can't stabilize from and release from a given, existing codebase. Ubuntu has now released several times from pre-sarge codebases, and at various points redhat, sun, ximian and others have all learned to either (1) stabilize unstable codebases or (2) release very promptly after the release of a stable release you were waiting on. That Userlinux had all this time to prepare for sarge, and despite all the time they had to prep has not yet gotten out so much as a beta based on sarge, bodes poorly for userlinux.
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 11, 2005 6:00 UTC (Mon) by jstAusr (guest, #27224) [Link] >Ubuntu has now released several times from pre-sarge codebases...
Well OK. As long as you define 'several' as more than one, such as two.
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 11, 2005 11:51 UTC (Mon) by louie (subscriber, #3285) [Link] Which is two more* than UserLinux has had, ironic, given that UserLinux was announced first.
*ignoring the various breezy beta releases
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 11, 2005 21:27 UTC (Mon) by rm6990 (guest, #30921) [Link] >> Well OK. As long as you define 'several' as more than one, such as two.
Ubuntu has made two releases, 4.10 and 5.04. They are based more on Sid than Sarge anyways, which is even more proof of their ability to stablize unstable code bases.
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 11, 2005 10:37 UTC (Mon) by hensema (guest, #980) [Link] The Linux enterprise market is RHAS and SLES (and their workstation equivalents). UserLinux is still vapourware. It doesn't seem to be aimed at the enterprise anyway (and if it is, it will fail for sure).
I don't exactly call a third enterprise-ready Linux distro to be 'fragmentation'.
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 11, 2005 21:29 UTC (Mon) by rm6990 (guest, #30921) [Link] That is exactly what UserLinux is supposed to be aimed at. Pasted below is the UserLinux Mission Statement.
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Provide businesses with freely available, high quality Linux operating systems accompanied by certifications, service, and support options designed to encourage productivity and security while reducing overall costs.
The UserLinux Project is developing an effective, streamlined, freely available Linux distribution for businesses of all sizes. The project is not-for-profit with associated services available from a network of commercial service providers.
Vendors Team on Debian-Based Enterprise Linux (eWeek) Posted Jul 14, 2005 9:05 UTC (Thu) by dps (subscriber, #5725) [Link] I for one would will not be biting. As a serious system administrator "nice GUI interface" and "network edge device" are mutually incompatible---the nice GUI interface presumably militates against careful minimised installations with just the software and services required.
Carefully minimised boxen are not subject to vast numbers of security problems becuase the affected software is not installed. It also has the nice property of creating usability problems for those that do own the box anyway.
Not Mandriva apparently Posted Jul 21, 2005 12:35 UTC (Thu) by leandro (guest, #1460) [Link] Just so we stop spreading misinformation, it seems Mandriva's participation is less than probable. Too bad.
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