Distressing helpings of FUD
Posted Jul 1, 2005 21:47 UTC (Fri) by
Max.Hyre (subscriber, #1054)
Parent article:
ESR: 'We Don't Need the GPL Anymore' (O'ReillyNet)
Quite the cage-rattling. It's sad to see ESR losing his grip to
this extent. From the first answer (``People who do what the
GPL tries to prevent (e.g., closed source forks of open source
projects) wind up injuring only themselves. ''), ESR speaks as
if there is 0.0% difference between ``open source'' and Free
Software. The preceding argument is false, if you believe freedom
is the requirement. Anyone creating such a non-Free fork is
locking users into whatever mods the forkers made to it. Further,
he spreads, quite freely, the ``GPL is viral'' canard.
To respond specifically to few items:
Some time ago there was a monetary offer to get a
Linux snapshot under BSD license. Would you have accepted?
I wouldn't have had the right to accept Jeff Merkey's offer; I'm not
Linus.
Is it certain that Linus will adopt GPL v3?
It depends. I know for a fact that he is concerned that GPL 3.0 will
overreach.
The GPL includes a clause that automatically shifts
the license terms to any new version of the license
itself. Isn't this a Trojan horse?
No, because the clause says ``at your option.'' That is, the person
receiving GPL v2 software gets to choose whether v2 or the later
version applies.
[....]
The user chooses only for copies of the software still under GPL 2.
A total misunderstanding of how changing terms to a later license can
happen. Linus didn't (and doesn't) have any more right to accept Merkey's
money than ESR.
Linux isn't his work to dispose of as he sees fit.
It just as impossible for Linus to convert the kernel to
GPL v.3. because many chunks are licensed under v.2 only.
It's the licensor's decision to add ``or, at your option,
any later version''; that's not in the GPL itself. If it's under GPL v.2 without that clause, the
user cannot upgrade the license. That's going to
burn the kernel badly if there turn out to be compelling reasons to
move to v.3. It requires finding all the contributors and
getting their permissions. I strongly suspect that for chunks of it,
it's not even known who the contributor is, much less whether they've
moved to Tibet for the life of contemplation, leaving no forwarding
address, to say nothing about those (we hope, few) who've died. Tough to
get permission.
I suspected that allegiance to the GPL is actually evidence that
open source developers don't really believe their own story. That
is, if we really believe that open source is a superior system of
production, and therefore that it will drive out closed source in
a free market, then why do we think we need infectious
licensing?
Here again, he confuses open source with Free Software. GPL users
aren't claiming it's a superior development method. It's about
giving user freedom, and ensuring that they get to
keep it.
Q: It seems that Red Hat is selling its GNU/Linux distribution
under a sort of user license that limits the freedom No. 2 provided by
the GPL. The short version of the story, as I was told, is that if I
buy a CD/DVD with the last Red Hat version and I make an ISO from that
and put that online, I'll get sued. [....]
[I]f you republish a RHEL CD in either form, you could get sued for
illegal use of the embedded trademark. [....]
As I understand it now, what Red Hat has done is legally blocked
republication of its entire RHEL distribution even though any
component part is still GPLed and therefore freely redistributable.
[....]
What you can't ``share'' is Red Hat's integration work and branding.
Actually, what you can't share is Red Hat's branding: if Red Hat
wants to keep their trademark, such a restriction is required.
To redistribute the ISO, all you need do is grep `Red Hat' and globally
replace it with `Foonly '. Burn that, there's no problem,
and you've got RH's integration . (If there's nothing but Free (not
necessarily copylefted) software on the image.)
While in the middle portion of the interview he speaks cogently to
the relationship between freedom and innovation, and the importance
of keeping your data out of proprietary traps, the rest is very
unsettling.
I hope he's just suffering a concussion from which
he'll recover soon. I'd hate to think he's gone over to the
Dark Side.
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