Dr. Dobb's Tcl-URL!

QOTW:  "If I don't embed Tcl, I'm going to have to write a command handler
for testing anyway, so I might as well use Tcl and get a *really good*
command handler." -- Stephen Trier
    http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=urq923ese05bb3%40corp.supernews.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl%26start%3D25

"This either has to be a very sophisticated bug or a very obvious one.
Let us hope for the latter."  -- Arjen Markus

"Tcl doesn't limit you to a particular programming paradigm. You just
[package require] the one you like." -- Kristoffer Lawson


    An examination of the newsgroup nowadays seems to indicate it caters
    to people using Tcl as a language in its own right, and that's all
    well and good.  But Tcl started out life as a skeleton for scripting
    applications.  And it's still pretty good at it:
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=HUVs9.1542%24Bd4.11652%40dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl%26start%3D125
    
    TclHttpd and AOLserver may be on friendlier terms than you think:
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=ee494c5f.0210280748.68939cea%40posting.google.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl%26start%3D25
    
    Maybe the dictionary work in Top #111 is already done?
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3DBE601F.BB9175E%40man.ac.uk&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl
    
    expr's byte-code compiler is a handy thing and greatly speeds
    execution but beware of being "clever" - it can turns around
    and...er..."byte" you...
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3DBE5D01.D7AAD0A2%40wldelft.nl&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl
    
    Need to save the state of the interpreter?  It can be done, but
    it hasn't been yet.  Not entirely...
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=apkb66%247bh%241%40charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl
    
    "after" isn't really just Tcl's version of "sleep":
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=apjst7%244hq%241%40Fourier.suse.de&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dcomp.lang.tcl
    
    
    TIPs in discussion:
    
    111: Dictionary Values and Manipulators -
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=75&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200210230943.30836%40despot.non.net
    
    112: Ensembles are Namespaces are Commands -
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=75&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200210230949.31097%40despot.non.net
    
    113: Multi-line searching in text widget =
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=75&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200210230952.31230%40despot.non.net
    
    114: System for non-decimal numerics (ref: DIE, OCTAL! DIE!) -
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=75&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200210231000.31541%40despot.non.net
    
    115: Making Tcl REALLY 64 bit ready -
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=75&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=pgpmoose.200210231055.32379%40despot.non.net
    
    
    Announcements:
    
    Jeff Hobbs: ActiveState is pleased to announce the
    8.3.5.0 and 8.4.1.0 releases of the ActiveTcl
    distribution for the Tcl scripting language.
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=FKlt9.4960%24i%25.1311276%40localhost
    Also the Tcl/Tk 8.4.1 source release:
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=AZkt9.4956%24i%25.1310339%40localhost
    And the 8.3.5 release:
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=rWkt9.4955%24i%25.1310322%40localhost
    
    Will Duquette throws another Snit (0.7):
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=125&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=ao89rucioc229j0fdurm2vn3kptl47mnot%404ax.com
    I'm liking Snit more and more as the most tcl-ish of the
    object-oriented extensions.  As a means of bringing them all
    and in the darkness binding them, it really shines (to mix an
    extremely bad metaphor).  Perhaps it is time to start thinking
    about moving Snit to tcllib, or perhaps even into the core.
    
    >From Daniel A. Steffen (das@users.sourceforge.net),
    TclTk 8.3.5 MacOS Classic binary distribution available:
        http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&start=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=comp.lang.tcl&selm=231020021514239129%25das%40users.sourceforge.net
    
    Marco Gonnelli announces eme, an extensible medical
    environment for accessing biomedical information and
    viewing images in DICOM and DICOMDIR files.
    
    
    
    And on the Wiki:
    
    Discussion about stacking commands on top of one another:     http://mini.net/tcl/4458
    Design Patterns in Tcl:     http://mini.net/tcl/2339
    Suck a whole website down into a zip file and browse it:     http://mini.net/tcl/4411
    
    Both the chatroom and the concept of a Wiki are the subjects for several
    new or updated pages. Just a few to see what is all about:
    - Would you like new entry and exit messages in the tkchat?
      Well, Pascal Scheffers is working on them, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/4433>.
    - Lots of ideas about improving the Wiki itself, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/4414>.
    
    Related in a way:
    - A markup language that resembles the Wiki's, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/3084>
    - A golden oldie, but still very nice, an instant hypertext system,
      <http://wiki.tcl.tk/4414>.
    
    This one is too beautiful to let go: "moth" puts the message in a single 
    picture, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/4450>.
    
    The storm that came over Europe this weekend is motivation enough to 
    mention this little applet:  get all the weather info you want via,
    <http://wiki.tcl.tk/3568>.
    
    Now three technical pages:
    - Date and time calculations made easy, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/948>
    - Accessing files made easier, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/2499>
    - If you can not wait for TIP #111, well, try this to implement
      dictionaries, <http://wiki.tcl.tk/2176>
    

Everything you want is probably one or two clicks away in these pages:

    The "Welcome to comp.lang.tcl" message by Andreas Kupries
        http://www.purl.org/net/tcl-welcome

    Larry Virden maintains a comp.lang.tcl FAQ launcher
        http://www.purl.org/NET/Tcl-FAQ/

    Brent Welch maintains "The Tcl Developer Xchange", a highly
    organized resource center of documents and software with
    provisions for individuals to "set up a link to your software
    and update ... as you release new versions."
        http://www.tcl-tk.net/resource/
    The Xchange sponsor also keeps info to convince your boss Tcl
    is a good thing
        http://www.tcl-tk.net/scripting/      

    The Tcl'ers Wiki is a huge, dynamic, collaboratively edited repository
    of documentation, examples, tutorials and pontifications on all things Tcl.
        http://wiki.tcl.tk/0
    For the ideal overview of the topics about Tcl most likely to
    interest a newcomer, see "Arts and Crafts ..."
	http://wiki.tcl.tk/969

    ActiveState Tools maintains a Cookbook of Tcl recipes
	http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Tcl

    NeoSoft has a comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive
        http://www.neosoft.com/tcl/contributed-software/

    Cameron Laird tracks many Tcl/Tk references of interest
        http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/comp.lang.tcl/

    Cetus Links maintains a Tcl/Tk page with verified links
        http://www.cetus-links.org/oo_tcl_tk.html

    Google Groups archives comp.lang.tcl.announce posts
	http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce/   

Previous - (U)se the (R)esource, (L)uke! - messages are listed here:
  http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/url.html
--in principal.  In spring 2001, though,
  http://www.ddj.com/topics/tclurl/
  http://tcl.activestate.com:8004/tclurl/
are more consistently up-to-date.  A fourth possibility is                 
  http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_q=+Tcl-URL!&as_ugroup=comp.lang.tcl  

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