The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

[Posted June 13, 2005 by cook]

From:		The Fedora Project <fedora-AT-redhat.com>
To:		fedora-announce-list-AT-redhat.com
Subject:		The Amazing Fedora Core 4!
Date:		Mon, 13 Jun 2005 10:36:54 -0400

Ladies and Gentlemen:

You may have *thought* you were using the latest and greatest in open
source software, but folks, today we have something really, really
exciting for you.

It purrs.  It hums.  It mesmerizes.  It is ...

FEDORA CORE FOUR

That's right, the premier open source operating system has just turned
4 -- four releases that is!  But before we tell you how much this is
going to cost, here are a few of the fabulous features:

* GNOME 2.10 

  With the elegant Clearlooks theme, descendent of our old friend
  Bluecurve.  Keep your eyes open for Evince, the new PDF viewer.

* OpenOffice.org 2.0 prerelease.  

  This popular office productivity suite handles all your favorite
  formats even better than before, and comes with a new database
  management capability.

* Eclipse and a 100% open source Java stack.  Gcj, need we say more?

* Fedora Extras 

  Extras packages are available, by default, at release time.  Extras
  is now integrated into the development, testing, and release cycles.

* KDE 3.4

  Complete desktop packed with a web browser, mail client, and so much more.

* PPC (PowerPC) 

  PPC architecture support.  Oh, yes, folks, Fedora Core on your PPC.
  It is downright amazing!

All of that, yes, all of that.  But, wait!, before you reach for your
wallet, you should hear about a few more of Fedora Core 4's fabuluous
features:

* Fedora Core is developed by the Fedora Project.  This amazing group
  of people love to promote the rapid development of innovative open
  source software through a collaborative, community effort.  Led by
  our old friends at Red Hat and featuring the tireless work of
  thousands of developers, packagers, testers, fixers, documenters,
  and users, Fedora Core 4 provides a complete Linux platform built
  exclusively from open source software.

  Let me say that again.

  Fedora Core is a complete Linux platform that is 100% open source.
  No mud in these waters, friends!

  One of Fedora Core's main objectives is to serve the needs of
  community developers, testers, and other technology enthusiasts who
  wish to participate in and accelerate the technology development
  process.  But you know what?  We aren't exclusive. We want you
  involved, too, whoever you are:

  http://fedora.redhat.com/participate

  You might surprise yourself.
 
  The Fedora Project pioneers leading edge technology and concepts
  that are sponsored by Red Hat and supported by the Fedora community.
  At this moment, Red Hat is pretty much in charge, folks.  There's no
  denying that.  But look around you!  There is change a'happening.
  Right now, Red Hat and the Fedora community have begun the creation
  of the Fedora Foundation.

Ok, folks, now I'm sure you are thinking this is going to cost you a
lot of money and release of personal liberties.

How much do you think it costs?  US$499 a box set?  No.  US$99 a seat?
No.  A nickel a megabyte of RAM? No.

Fedora Core 4 is 100% unconditionally free.  Free of restrictions.
And, oh, yes, free of cost.

You can get Fedora Core 4 many ways:

 VIA FEDORA.REDHAT.COM
 
    * http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

 VIA BITTORRENT
 
    * http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/stentz-binary-i386.torrent
    * http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/stentz-binary-x86_64.tor...
    * http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/stentz-binary-ppc.torrent
    
   For DVD and other formats, see http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
   
   BitTorrent can be installed from Fedora Extras:
   
     http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/
     
 VIA MIRRORS

   The following mirrors carry Fedora Core 4:

     * North America

          * USA East

               * http://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.linux.duke.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/4/
               * http://fedora.mirrors.tds.net/pub/fedora-core/4/
               * rsync://fedora.mirrors.tds.net::fedora-core/4/
               * http://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.eas.muohio.edu/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/redhat/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * http://fedora.secsup.org/core/4/
               * ftp://fedora.secsup.org/pub/linux/redhat/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://fedora.secsup.org/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.newnanutilities.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://mirror.newnanutilities.org/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://rsync.gtlib.gatech.edu/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * ftp://linux.nssl.noaa.gov/fedora/core/4/
               *
http://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/download.fedo...
               *
ftp://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/download.fedor...
               * rsync://mirror.cs.wisc.edu/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * http://ftp.ale.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.ale.org/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * ftp://fedora.bu.edu/core/4/
               * http://mirrors.playboy.com/fedora/4/
               * ftp://mirrors.playboy.com/fedora/4/
               * rsync://mirrors.playboy.com/fedora/4/
               * http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/fedora/core/4/
               * http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * rsync://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://srl.cs.jhu.edu/YUM/fedora-core/4/
               * http://srl.cs.jhu.edu/YUM/fedora-core/4/
               * http://linux.admin.uillinois.edu/pub/linux/fedora/linux/c...
               * ftp://linux.admin.uillinois.edu/pub/linux/fedora/linux/co...

          * USA West

               * http://limestone.uoregon.edu/ftp/fedora/4/
               * rsync://limestone.uoregon.edu/ftp/fedora/4/
               * ftp://mirror.stanford.edu/pub/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://mirror.stanford.edu/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/core/4/
               * http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/core/4/
               * http://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://fedora.cat.pdx.edu/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * http://mirror.usu.edu/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.usu.edu/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://redhat.taygeta.com/pub/RedHat/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.uci.edu/mirrors/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://mirrors.tummy.com/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora...
               * ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linu...
               * http://mirrors.csumb.edu/pub/fedora/4/

          * Canada

               * http://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://less.cogeco.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.nrc.ca/pub/systems/linux/redhat/fedora/linux/co...
               * http://gulus.USherbrooke.ca/pub/distro/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://rsync.muug.mb.ca/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * http://fedora.arcticnetwork.ca/4/
               * ftp://mirror.arcticnetwork.ca/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://rsync.arcticnetwork.ca::fedora-linux-core/4/

     * South America

          * Brazil

               * http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://rsync.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Chile

               * ftp://ftp.tecnoera.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.tecnoera.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.tecnoera.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.netglobalis.net/pub/fedora/core/4/
               * http://mirror.netglobalis.net/pub/fedora/core/4/

     * Europe

          * Austria

               * http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.tugraz.at/mirror/redhat-linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.tugraz.at/mirror/redhat-linux/fedora/linux/cor...

          * Czech Republic

               * http://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/4/
               * ftp://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/pub/fedora/4/
               * rsync://sunsite.mff.cuni.cz/fedora/fedora/4/
               * ftp://ftp6.linux.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/
               * http://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.fi.muni.cz/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/
               * ftp://ftp1.skynet.cz/pub/linux/fedora/4/
               * http://ftp1.skynet.cz/pub/linux/fedora/4/

          * Denmark

               * ftp://klid.dk/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://klid.dk/homeftp/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Estonia

               * http://redhat.linux.ee/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://redhat.linux.ee/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Finland

               * ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora/...
               * ftp://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fe...
               * http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/fedora...
               * http://ftp.ipv6.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/pub/f...

          * France

               * http://ftp.crihan.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/lin...
               * ftp://ftp.crihan.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linu...
               * rsync://ftp.crihan.fr/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * http://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.ciril.fr/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/fedora/lin...
               * ftp://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/4/
               * http://www-ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/4/

          * Germany

               * http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.uni-bayreuth.de/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://rsync.uni-bayreuth.de/fedora-linux-core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/fe...
               * http://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/f...
               * ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/pub/Mirrors/fedora....
               * rsync://ftp.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/fedora-...
               * http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/fedora.redha...
               * ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/fedora.redhat...
               * http://dl.atrpms.net/mirrors/fedoracore/4/

          * Greece

               * ftp://ftp.otenet.gr/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Iceland

               * http://www.fedora.is/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.fedora.is/pub/fedora/core/4/

          * Ireland

               * http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pu...
               * ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub...
               * rsync://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Italy

               * http://fedora.ngi.it/4/

          * Poland

               * ftp://ftp.wsisiz.edu.pl//pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.wsisiz.edu.pl::fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.pbone.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.pbone.net/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://ftp.ps.pl/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.ps.pl/pub/linux/fedora-core/4/

          * Romania

               * http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/fedora-core/core/4/
               * http://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.lug.ro/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Russia

               * http://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.chg.ru/pub/Linux/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.chg.ru/fedora/core/4/
               * http://ftp.rhd.ru/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.rhd.ru/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Serbia and Montenegro

               * http://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/fedora/4/
               * ftp://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/fedora/4/
               * rsync://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/fedora/4/
               * http://mirror2etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/fedora/4/
               * ftp://mirror2.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/fedora/4/
               * rsync://mirror2.etf.bg.ac.yu/distributions/fedora/4/

          * Slovakia

               * http://ftp.upjs.sk/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.upjs.sk/pub/linux/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Slovenia

               * http://mirrors.bevc.net/fedora/4/
               * ftp://ftp.bevc.net/mirrors/fedora/4/

          * Spain

               * http://ftp.udl.es/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.udl.es/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.udl.es/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.rediris.es/mirror/fedora.redhat/4/
               * http://sunsite.rediris.es/mirror/fedora.redhat/4/

          * Sweden

               * ftp://ftp.chl.chalmers.se/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Switzerland

               * ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * United Kingdom

               * http://zeniv.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/...
               * ftp://zeniv.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/c...
               *
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat...
               *
ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat....
               * rsync://www.mirrorservice.org/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

     * Asia/Pacific

          * Australia

               * http://planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * rsync://rsync.planetmirror.com/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.netcraft.com.au/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Japan

               * http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.riken.jp/fedora/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.nara.wide.ad.jp/pub/Linux/fedora/core/4/
               * http://ftp.nara.wide.ad.jp/pub/Linux/fedora/core/4/
               * rsync://ftp.nara.wide.ad.jp/fedora/core/4/

          * New Zealand

               * ftp://ftp.wicks.co.nz/pub/linux/dist/fedora/4/

          * Singapore

               * http://mirror.averse.net/fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://mirror.averse.net/pub/fedora/linux/core/4/

          * Taiwan

               * http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/4/
               * ftp://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/core/4/

   More mirrors are coming online; check
	http://mirrors.tds.net/fedora/fc4.html
   for a list of mirrors that have reported they've synced Fedora Core 4,
   and check:
   	http://fedora.redhat.com/download/mirrors.html
   for a list of mirrors that carry Fedora Core.  Thanks to Shane Brath
   for generating the list.
   
 VIA CD
 
   Vendora who carry Fedora Core on CD/DVD are listed at:
   
     * http://fedora.redhat.com/download/vendors.html
   
   These vendors will have Fedora Core 4 available in the near future.

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 13, 2005 16:50 UTC (Mon) by b7j0c (guest, #27559) [Link] (3 responses)

Congrats, hope it is stable, lots of changes to key packages. Glad to see Fedora become a true community project, there's room for a bleeding-edge distro managed by the community. Will be interested to see how Extras shapes up.

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 13, 2005 18:10 UTC (Mon) by jstAusr (guest, #27224) [Link] (2 responses)

Will Fedora ever become comparable to Debian, with bleeding-edge options and stable options as well? Perhaps Fedora could support a few more packages as well.

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 16, 2005 2:22 UTC (Thu) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link] (1 responses)

Fedora is actually pretty stable.

My question is whether Debian will ever be comparable to Fedora, providing bleeding edge packages with security updates, too. (What other distro could ever get away with not providing security updates to its most popular releases?)

By the way, if you want a slower (but predictable) release cycle (unlike the total unpredictability of Debian) and you want it in a free, community supported form, check out Centos 4.1.

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 22, 2005 15:28 UTC (Wed) by jstAusr (guest, #27224) [Link]

Thanks anyway, but Debian already has everything you need and alot more. You just need to learn how to use it. Its very easy if you are willing to put in a little effort.

PPC, oh yeah

Posted Jun 13, 2005 17:34 UTC (Mon) by dberkholz (guest, #23346) [Link] (4 responses)

Sweet! They got PowerPC support just in time for Apple to drop it!

PPC, oh yeah

Posted Jun 13, 2005 18:58 UTC (Mon) by alan (guest, #4018) [Link] (2 responses)

um er, if you look around, you might notice that there are some third party ppc hardware vendors out there that are testing the market. Since the first wave is of a limited supply, I'm keeping mum until I purchase mine :o)

PPC, oh yeah

Posted Jun 13, 2005 19:42 UTC (Mon) by gnb (subscriber, #5132) [Link] (1 responses)

There have been third party PPC motherboards around for ages (pegasos
etc.) but never at what looked to me like an competitive price compared
to x86. Are you saying that's changing? Interesting if so.

PPC, oh yeah

Posted Jun 14, 2005 3:44 UTC (Tue) by rqosa (subscriber, #24136) [Link]

> never at what looked to me like an competitive price compared to x86. Are you saying that's changing?

Terra Soft offers a "blade" server made by IBM which appears to cost less than the Apple Xserve. I'm not sure how this compares to x86 blade servers.

Also, in Terra Soft's announcement, they claimed that "Things are already in motion to enable a world of greater Power Architecture diversity." (If I remember correctly, around winter of 2002/2003, they had announced that they would sell the MAI Teron CX mainboard, also known as AmigaOne SE, but they didn't follow through on that.)

PPC, oh yeah

Posted Jun 13, 2005 22:04 UTC (Mon) by rankincj (guest, #4865) [Link]

Good thing, too. All those PPC MACs can now become fully-fledged Linux machines ;-).

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 13, 2005 18:17 UTC (Mon) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

I'm on the Fedora-Devel list and there is talk of extending future release cycles to 9 months or so. Sounds like a good idea to me.

I don't see this as a particularly radical release. Not like FC2 and the switch to the 2.6 kernel.

And this is a very late spring release for Fedora/Redhat. Over seven months.

I'm expecting pretty good stability. And with the creation of the Fedora Foundation, I suspect that the timing of the dropping of support for "old" releases might be more user oriented, and less RedHat oriented. (As in "Don't drop support for FC(n-2) a month or two before the release of FC(n)".)

BTW, that last is not really a dig at RH. Just a constructive criticism. :-)

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 13, 2005 19:15 UTC (Mon) by peace (guest, #10016) [Link]

Many thanks and congradulations to the Fedora team! Between Ubuntu and Fedora it has become much easier to spread Linux to interested newbies.

Also, Fedora has absolutely the best release announcements, they make me smile :-)

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 13, 2005 19:45 UTC (Mon) by dmarti (subscriber, #11625) [Link]

Sweet. OO.o 2.0 and Eclipse in an all-Free-Software distribution. Happy, happy, joy joy!

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 14, 2005 5:40 UTC (Tue) by dkite (guest, #4577) [Link] (1 responses)

Honest opinion needed.

How does Fedora compare to Ubuntu? Do I need to build or install
unsupported packages to get a working desktop box?

I see that KDE is supported. Does Fedora keep up to date with new
releases?

I'm having the rather uncomfortable experience of binary distributions
after a borked gentoo install needed to be replaced in a few hours. Are
they all this bad?

Derek (the gentoo install was three years old and like all three year
olds needed a bit of cleaning up)

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 14, 2005 7:34 UTC (Tue) by jamesh (guest, #1159) [Link]

Both distros come with a working desktop. However, both distros lack out of the box support for patent encumbered media codecs (which is pretty much a given if you want to put out a free of charge distro).

As far as staying up to date, both distros come out at roughly 6 month intervals, so one is likely to be more up to date than the other at any one time but never by more than 6 months. You won't generally see new versions of packages being added to an existing version of the distro -- only security updates and critical bug fixes. If you really need bleeding edge packages, both distros have corresponding development distros, so you can track the development of the next stable release.

If you need stuff outside of the main distribution, Fedora provides a "Fedora Extras" repository and Ubuntu has a "universe" repository. Universe is larger than Extras, which could be a deciding factor.

The other differences are in details like package management system (apt vs. yum), system config tools (gnome-system-tools vs. system-config-*) and some distro specific customisations.

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 15, 2005 15:31 UTC (Wed) by beoba (guest, #16942) [Link] (3 responses)

Now that the project is more independant of Redhat, does XMMS play MP3's?

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 16, 2005 1:51 UTC (Thu) by jwboyer (guest, #23296) [Link] (1 responses)

Nope. And the project hasn't transitioned to a Fedora Foundation as of yet.

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 16, 2005 1:52 UTC (Thu) by jwboyer (guest, #23296) [Link]

Oh, and XMMS is no longer in Fedora Core. It's in Fedora Extras though.

The Amazing Fedora Core 4!

Posted Jun 16, 2005 15:48 UTC (Thu) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link]

Playing MP3s requires paying for a licence for patented CODECs. Can't be done on a free (as in beer) distribution. Besides, Red Hat (and Fedora) pledge distributing only open source, so...