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Posted May 22, 2005 4:03 UTC (Sun) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688)
In reply to: Customisation by odie
Parent article: Outlook vs Evolution vs Kontact: an e-mail client comparison (opensourceversus)

> It sounds to me that what you want is not a mega-application that does
> everything, but rather several small apps that each do one task well.

As far as Outlook is concerned, not really. Well, if it were up to me I'd be reading my mail with pine which has been my mail client since about 1992. But we use exchange server at work with pop and imap disabled so I'm out of luck.

What I want is a way to easily rearrange the interface of applications in a manner that suits my working style or current workflow best. If Outlook was split into separate applications then what I'd want (probably from the window manager) is a way to create an empty window and then dock other application windows into the container window. That way I could lay things out how I want but manipulate the "combined app" as it were as a single application. One window to move, one window to iconify or close (which would close all contained applications).

I also don't like using windows (the GUI object). I hate how they overlap. The first thing I do when I run an app is hit the maximize button. Windows are fine for dialog boxes and such but I want use as much of my screen as I can for whatever app I'm working in. There's a window manager called Ion that's thinking along the lines of what I want but you can only control it from the keyboard. It also takes custom programming, in yet another programming language, to get it to work the way you want with apps.

Sadly, my window manager of choice is Microsoft Windows. It does what I want with regards to maximizing and window management. I have Cygwin with its X server running on my Windows laptop. I just ssh into my Linux box, run apps, and have their interface appear on my Windows desktop (gotta love X's ability to do that).

I haven't found anything that works the way the MS window manager does under Linux. There's always a catch with window managers in Linux such as still being able to click and drag the window on the title bar when the window is maximized. MS Windows will lock the window into place when a window is maximized (which is what I want). Or window managers will resize the window to fill the screen but it's just resized, not locked into place, and they still contain window borders which are eating up screen space. That's the primary reason I don't like Macs. They are too window oriented. You spend a lot of time shuffling windows to get to things instead of getting work done.


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Posted May 22, 2005 9:46 UTC (Sun) by farnz (subscriber, #17727) [Link]

KDE 3.4's kwin window manager gets you part of the way there; in KControl, under Desktop, there's an option pane "Window Behaviour". In the "Moving" tab, there's an option "Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows". Uncheck this, and maximized windows can't be moved or resized. It also gets rid of the borders.

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Posted May 22, 2005 16:10 UTC (Sun) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link]

Awesome! Thanks for the tip. That's the push I needed to install KDE 3.4. I've been using KDE 3.3 under Debian at work because that's what Debian came with. There were some unofficial KDE 3.4 files but I had been afraid to install them. I guess I'll risk it now. :-D

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Posted May 23, 2005 14:36 UTC (Mon) by job (subscriber, #670) [Link]

Thanks for the tip! I had wished for this feature and then when it was implemented I completely missed it!

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Posted May 23, 2005 14:55 UTC (Mon) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link]

Thank you so much. I just installed KDE 3.4 and now maximized windows do *exactly* what I want. The close, minimize, and maximize buttons also go right to the edge of the screen which means I can just whip the pointer to the top right and click to close. Before it took a lot more time and coordination to click the close button.

I'm one step closer to moving 100% to Linux.

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