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IncompatibilityIncompatibilityPosted May 19, 2005 11:44 UTC (Thu) by liljencrantz (subscriber, #28458)In reply to: Incompatibility by modernjazz Parent article: Fish - The friendly interactive shell
Right. But initialization scripts will have to be converted, and they can't be shared between shells. The latter is probably something that will make it much harder to get fish into any distributions.
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Incompatibility Posted May 19, 2005 14:59 UTC (Thu) by modernjazz (guest, #4185) [Link] I'm _not_ an expert, far from it. But how much of the end result ofinitialization comes down to 2 things: setting environment variables and aliases? If that's most of it, would it be possible to have fish: launch a (say, bash) sub-shell for initialization, do the initialization in that sub-shell, and then have fish simply parse the output of "env" and "alias" commands running in that sub-shell?
Incompatibility Posted May 19, 2005 15:35 UTC (Thu) by liljencrantz (subscriber, #28458) [Link] Good question. This is more or less what Red Hat already does on some files for tcsh, at least under Fedora Core 3. They have a bunch of shell scripts only containing lines like:
FOO=BAR
that are directly sourced by the init file under Bourne shells, and for tcsh, they run this monster:
eval `grep -v '^[:blank:]*#' $file | sed 's|\([^=]*\)=\([^=]*\)|setenv \1 \2|g' | sed 's|$|;|'`
Doing the same thing with aliases as well shouldn't be impossible. But it sure is ugly...
Incompatibility Posted May 20, 2005 15:05 UTC (Fri) by markc (subscriber, #4419) [Link] Perhaps if you wrote a "fishify" inbuilt function or program to covertbash'isms to fish'isms then folks could adopt fish on top of established bash scripts. I could find myself using fish instead of bash but every time I went to write something that might be widely distributed I'd probably always stick to bash, unless there was a reliable way to ensure that a fish script would still work under most circumstance and play well with establish bash scripts (like rc startup scripts for instance).
Incompatibility Posted May 21, 2005 10:26 UTC (Sat) by liljencrantz (subscriber, #28458) [Link] The languages are close enough that this should be possible. Back in college, I wrote a Pascal to C converter for a syntax course, this should actually be easier. Of course, that converter ignored tricky bits like records and pointers, and it was never widely tested...
Incompatibility Posted Feb 24, 2008 12:16 UTC (Sun) by beojan (guest, #50713) [Link] It might be incompatibl with other shells, but since I am creating a distribution for beginners, fish is the default login shell, whilst bash is the default /bin/sh.
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