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Goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy' Release

A set of preliminary goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy Badger' release has been posted. The Ubuntu developers cannot be faulted for lack of ambition; if they achieve a substantial portion of those objectives, Breezy will be a nice release indeed.
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Goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy' Release

Posted May 11, 2005 15:45 UTC (Wed) by cantsin (guest, #4420) [Link]

The agenda looks good for desktop users. But it is so ambitious in its scope that it makes Ubuntu fork further from Debian, probably also breaking some of Debian's policy.

Goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy' Release

Posted May 11, 2005 17:34 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link]

Then Debian will just need to figure out how to reverse the direction of flow. Debian is too slow-moving to be treated as upstream of Ubuntu; it's going to have to figure out how to manage being downstream as well.

As for policy: Debian's policies work very well in the server context, but are going to need work for the desktop. Ubuntu is doing that work, and Debian can learn from it, picking up the best ideas and leaving the rest.

Forking is OK if it's interwoven with re-merging.

Goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy' Release

Posted May 11, 2005 17:57 UTC (Wed) by josh_stern (guest, #4868) [Link]

I'm a long time Debian user who recently put Ubuntu Hoary on a laptop to take advantage of the quick install (ntfs resizing included, no need to install and then upgrade to unstable, etc). So far I'm liking Ubuntu a lot and the main thing I miss is an equivalent for the http://packages.debian.org web page. Would like to see Ubuntu make such a page as a future todo item.

Goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy' Release

Posted May 11, 2005 18:01 UTC (Wed) by metaur (guest, #13633) [Link]

There's already http://packages.ubuntu.com/ .

// Ulf Härnhammar

Goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy' Release

Posted May 11, 2005 19:13 UTC (Wed) by josh_stern (guest, #4868) [Link]

Thanks, that's a big help. I didn't find any link to that site from the Ubuntu homepage and hadn't thought to just try the analogy.

Goals for the Ubuntu 'Breezy' Release

Posted May 11, 2005 18:46 UTC (Wed) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link]

What policies would it break?

Ambitious indeed

Posted May 11, 2005 21:49 UTC (Wed) by alspnost (guest, #2763) [Link]

Well, this confirms that Ubuntu is really going places. If they achieve even half of this, I think we can say that 2006 really *will* be the year of Linux on the desktop :-)

Ambitious indeed

Posted May 12, 2005 7:50 UTC (Thu) by Zenith (subscriber, #24899) [Link]

If they achieve even half of this, I think we can say that 2006 really *will* be the year of Linux on the desktop :-)

....making it the 7th (or so) consecutive year of Linux on the desktop :-P

Installed yesterday.

Posted May 12, 2005 9:18 UTC (Thu) by penguinroar (guest, #14460) [Link]

Actually installing Ubuntu was the easiest install i have ever made on any OS. Every single hardware just worked, camera, usb stick, mp3 player, printer you name it. The repo is impressive and has an enormous amount of software if one enables the full repos through for eg. synaptic. The only tweak i did was to get tv-out on nvidias propriatary driver.

Ubuntu is very much ready for daily desktop use, in some areas its easier than windows with ubuntu since you actually can change usb port for a hardware without reinstalling the driver ;D

Installed yesterday.

Posted May 12, 2005 15:36 UTC (Thu) by gomadtroll (guest, #11239) [Link]

And it does all that in 64bit also, nice work.

Greg

Installed yesterday.

Posted May 12, 2005 21:40 UTC (Thu) by Zenith (subscriber, #24899) [Link]

I would agree with the installation, and for my own use, it's highly recommended, but I have a few gripes with it (or rather "Linux on the Desktop") that makes me a bit sceptical.

I recently tried, as an experiment, to install Ubuntu on a friend of mine's laptop. Although the installation was pretty smooth, getting MP3 and Java and so on to work is probably more than most "dumb" users can handle. Xine failed miserably in trying to play her *cough* pirated *cough* movies, so I had to install mplayer and all the codecs along with it, and Totem was really annoying the shit out of me (not working well either and crashing), so that went out as well. Tried setting rhythmbox up as much as possible to mimick Winamp, but installed Beep Media Player just in case, and Open Office as well.
All in all, a pretty close match to what she is used to with Windows, but it was just too very much different for her, and I must admit I felt a bit disappointed with some of the hurdles we had in installing it (all the mandatory comments about suspend and Linux and such aside). I had high hopes for the experiment, but it did leave me wanting for a more integrated and working-out-of-the-box desktop Linux.
Ubuntu is (from what few distros I've tried recently) by far the one that is closest in achieving this, but it's just not quite there yet. Reading their goals for Breezy Badger has my hopes up high though.

Installed yesterday.

Posted May 15, 2005 5:22 UTC (Sun) by jbailey (subscriber, #16890) [Link]

If you have suspend or hibernate bugs, please file them in bugzilla. Hibernate should be working fully with Hoary, and you should generally be able to expect Suspend to work with Breezy.

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