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New Study says Mid-Sized Companies Not Interested in Linux
Info-Tech Research Group has studied
Linux adoption in mid-sized companies, finding that few will adopt
Linux anytime soon. "The study highlighted the divide that is
occurring between large companies who are increasingly embracing open
source, and smaller companies who remain Microsoft-centric. Of the
companies who did not already have Linux installed, 48 percent have no
interest whatsoever and a further 15 percent are not sure."
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New Study says Mid-Sized Companies Not Interested in Linux Posted Apr 5, 2005 17:50 UTC (Tue) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link] so 35% are going to adopt Linux. This is a pretty significant market share.
that has to scare microsoft.
torturing the numbers Posted Apr 5, 2005 18:32 UTC (Tue) by szoth (guest, #14825) [Link] This press release does a nice job of torturing the numbers, and the English language to make Linux adoption rates look bad. What would it sound like if we tortured them the other way?
We could for example say that 54% (1) of respondents are either using Linux or plan to use Linux, while only 35% (2) of respondents have no current strategy.
Now if you agree that the press release looks biased, what do you think the chances are that the survey questions where leading as well?
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Already using Linux (A) = .27
of N, interested in Linux (I|N) = .37
(1) A + (I|N * N)
torturing the numbers Posted Apr 5, 2005 18:54 UTC (Tue) by headsman (guest, #17057) [Link] Yes, this is what I was calculating. This is sad to see such a bad presentation of numbers. If you distribute the numbers on 100% you get:
27% - have linux already
So this is no bad news at all. It is a shame to present information in such a way as to say they are better to stick with Microsoft.
torturing the numbers Posted Apr 7, 2005 15:53 UTC (Thu) by djuusola (guest, #29108) [Link] Hi,
Actually, the numbers are as follows. I made a mistake in the original press release stating that "Of those that don't have Linux installed..." when it should have read "Of the total responses...".
Therefore, this was the breakdown:
27% Installed
A couple of other points:
1. The survey was entirely independent. We do not and will not take money from vendors for research.
I hope this helps to clarify some misconceptions.
Davin Juusola
torturing the numbers Posted Apr 8, 2005 15:38 UTC (Fri) by szoth (guest, #14825) [Link] "simply not interested"
"tiny 10 percent"
"Just 27 percent"
These three excerpts speak for themselves.
"The Linux advance into this market has stalled,"
Your numbers say nothing about current adoption rates versus previous adoption rates.
"mid-sized enterprises should stick to Microsoft"
Here's the meat of it. The press release does nothing to tie these assertions to the numbers from the study.
1. I didn't say you took money from MS, I said that the word games you play reveal your bias.
2. I'm not concerned about your confidence interval, I'm concerned about your bias induced by your suvey technique, this is speculative of course you may have done a bang up study and then only presented the data in a biased manner.
3. I don't care wether your anti-linux or pro-amiga, that's your own business. I don't like your press release because of the obvious faults of reason and the gratuitous pot-shots it containes.
New Study says Mid-Sized Companies Not Interested in Linux Posted Apr 5, 2005 18:37 UTC (Tue) by danielos (subscriber, #6053) [Link] I read «A tiny 10 percent of mid-sized enterprises plan to evaluate Linux within the next three years and only a portion of these will actually adopt it.». This is good share anyway. I have worked with windows for some time and returning to linux make me less frustated, company which will evaluate seriousily linux will adopt it, the problem is on how much seriously they evaluate it.
New Study says Mid-Sized Companies Not Interested in Linux Posted Apr 7, 2005 0:01 UTC (Thu) by jd (guest, #26381) [Link] Current adoption of Linux is supposed to be about 1%. Suggested adoption of Linux in the near-future is 10%. That's a 1000% growth rate. I'd say that's damn good.
New Study says Mid-Sized Companies Not Interested in Linux Posted Apr 8, 2005 14:49 UTC (Fri) by szoth (guest, #14825) [Link] I think that one percent number comes from the browser usage statistics. We've got much better penetration in the server market. But I do think this article is correct that mid-sized companies have the least interest in Linux. Small companies may be interested because of the possibility of saving money throught the do-it-yourself route, large companies can afford to hire excellent Linux expertise, but the mid-sized company has the money to take Microsoft's "easy" answer.
New Study says Mid-Sized Companies are Adopting Linux Posted Apr 5, 2005 18:37 UTC (Tue) by mchristensen (guest, #4955) [Link] LetÂ’s look at the same data from a different angle:
"27 percent of mid-sized companies currently have Linux installed"
Of the remaining 73 percent, 37 percent plan to use Linux in the future, and another 15 percent are still not sure.
This leaves only 35 percent of mid-sized businesses committed to Microsoft.
We don't know how the questions were worded, or the group of people surveyed, but it sure looks to me like these people are embracing Linux.
Besides the strange analysis of the data, this press release contents itself to make claims like: "Unless there is a compelling business reason to implement a Linux system, IT decision makers in mid-sized enterprises should stick to Microsoft solutions, even though they are not perfect..."
Which is true enough, but we all know that there are compelling business reasons to use Linux. If the security, ease of upkeep, and stability of Linux are unimportant to your business, perhaps Microsoft is still the way to go.
--Mark Ramm
New Study says Mid-Sized Companies are Adopting Linux Posted Apr 6, 2005 9:13 UTC (Wed) by philips (guest, #937) [Link] I think results can be explained by simple logic.
Small business. Start-ups has to count every penny - they have to report to investors how well they have spent their money. Long time small companies are always easier to make big changes, since this big changes on their respective small scale are very easy to perform. So if they are seeing potential for real gain - why not? After all, on such scale, "complete overhaul of infrastructure" most of the time is just newly bought PC server. And if admin have said that he can manage better *nix than Windoz - so why manager will ever bother to think twice? I haven't seen price as being driving factor - scale is just way too small for price to be a factor.
Large business. With current economical situation, CEOs are desperate for ways to deliver value to shareholders/provate owners/etc. So Open Source goes from top to down - its managerial decision. Not much anything good can be said on this. Price here is principal factor. Quality of software? - managers never touch it any way - so they don't care. I have seen only handful of companies where such decisions were made bottom-to-top. Not that much compnies do handle IT inhouse anyway.
Medium business. In past - small business. Decisions where made several years ago and now people try to squeeze as much as possible profit from existing infrastructure. This is actually most troubled kind of companies - companies on verge of growth. And growth here means hiring new people. But in meantime no-one will ever try to scrap existing IT infrastructure, since it hasn't yet paid off. Medium companies are most conservative of all kinds I have seen. And business growth for them is prime factor - all other investments are secondary.
New Study says Mid-Sized Companies Not Interested in Linux Posted Apr 5, 2005 18:43 UTC (Tue) by lutchann (subscriber, #8872) [Link] I find this really interesting. Large companies have always been the ones for whom Microsoft solutions have worked best. When GE or Halliburton wants some specific tweak to Office, or maybe there's some bug in Windows that really hits their in-house app, you'd better believe Microsoft jumps right on it and makes things right. On the other hand, small and mid-sized companies are on their knees in front of Microsoft, locked into take-it-or-leave-it annual licensing fees and upgrade schedules. If the happiest customers are the first to jump ship, we must have something special here. :-)
As long as large companies are willing to put the money and effort into evaluating and adopting open-source solutions, we're in good shape. Once the open-source "enterprise model" matures a bit and more grunt techs become comfortable with Linux, companies less willing to take risks with their IT strategy will start looking at it more seriously.
New Study says Mid-Sized Companies Not Interested in Linux Posted Apr 5, 2005 19:28 UTC (Tue) by neoprene (guest, #8520) [Link] These pundits always get it wrong:"An important consideration for any mid-sized enterprise evaluating Linux is that although Linux is free, the support for it is not," says Koelsch. Some Linux vendors include support, no?
Is Microsoft support free? What is this guy smoking?
"For smaller organizations that already have a trained Windows-based support staff, adding Linux to the mix can add headcount, complexity and create havoc," he continues. "Unless there is a compelling business reason to implement a Linux system, IT decision makers in mid-sized enterprises should stick to Microsoft solutions, even though they are not perfect either."
If you have Some Big Proprietary Application that runs under Linux and also MS, would there be a difference in cost of support? How relevant would the local "Windows-based support staff" for that Big App?
"Just 27 percent of mid-sized companies currently have Linux installed and almost half of the respondents said they have no interest in Linux. The
Excuse me, just 27% ? Thats a big number. And 50%+ DO have interest in a non-microsoft sloution. That's scary :)
Even Newer Study says Companies Not Interested in SP2 Posted Apr 5, 2005 22:09 UTC (Tue) by neoprene (guest, #8520) [Link] Some more statistics on MS and their popularity with Corporations:http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,120288,00.asp How much does this speak for corporate trust of Redmond?
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ncl=ht...
New Study says Surveyors Taking Cash Under the Counter Posted Apr 5, 2005 22:55 UTC (Tue) by leonbrooks (guest, #1494) [Link] Another unmentioned point: Linux heads may be more expensive, each, but you need far fewer of them, so overall the cost is lower.My own experience is that I charge half as much again as a typical MS Windows tech, but show up about 1/3 as often, the nett being (ballpark) that I am half as expensive as an MCSE overall. These surveyors should be working for the tobacco industry. "95% of cigarette users not dying this year!"
New Study says Surveyors Taking Cash Under the Counter Posted Apr 6, 2005 11:15 UTC (Wed) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link] I'd like to add another one: most companies of some size already have a number of Unix administrators who should be perfectly capable of Linux system administration; I would argue that the switch from AIX or whatever to Linux is much easier than from NT to W2k.Besides, more and more boxes in the datacenter *are* running Linux (terminal servers, intelligent switches and what have you), so it's not even a matter of choice anymore. ;-)
New Study says Surveyors Taking Cash Under the Counter Posted Apr 6, 2005 11:16 UTC (Wed) by hppnq (guest, #14462) [Link] The comment above, of course, is aimed at the high end of mid sized companies. ;-)
New Study says Surveyors Taking Cash Under the Counter Posted Apr 8, 2005 0:03 UTC (Fri) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link] Sure, for the same job Linux heads might be cheaper, but that is in the long run. In the meantime, you'll have MSFT experts and Linux experts, and also compatibility hassles. This adds up to more costs right now. Even if the net cash flow of the switchover is positive, not everybody can afford it.
PR Newswire Posted Apr 6, 2005 13:36 UTC (Wed) by huffd (guest, #10382) [Link] You've all got to understand that this is just a forum for direct PR releases. SCOXE uses PR Newswire all the time.
This article was released directly from Mickeysoft and has nothing to do with reality. Read the fine print at the bottom of the page.
Anyone can make a press release there for a few hundred dollars. Checkout the PR Newswire site for rates.
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