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Posted Mar 30, 2005 23:54 UTC (Wed) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559)
Parent article: Chandler 0.5 released

Progress on this tool seems to be extraordinarily slow. It seems to have been surpassed by the evolution folks and various mozilla foundation products.


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Posted Mar 31, 2005 8:14 UTC (Thu) by boudewijn (subscriber, #14185) [Link]

And don't forget Kontact, which has surpassed Evolution, Hula _and_ the
Mozilla foundation.

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Posted Mar 31, 2005 12:05 UTC (Thu) by mcatkins (guest, #4270) [Link]

Do either of these have the "vfolders for everything" approach which,
as I understand it, and from my perspective, is the most appealing
feature of Chandler?

NB. I'm not trying to knock either project, both of which I've considered
trying, but that feature is what I'm wanting, and if it is already
available somewhere, then I'd love to know!

vfolders

Posted Apr 1, 2005 20:55 UTC (Fri) by Tobu (subscriber, #24111) [Link]

These are in evo.
Personally I use them for mailing lists, messages I had tagged, messages from certain people, and use the catch-all rule to grab the more interesting ones. For lists I use a search that filters important messages in the vfolder.

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Posted Mar 31, 2005 15:37 UTC (Thu) by sphealey (guest, #1028) [Link]

Well, you might want to read Mitch Kapor's weblog on this issue.

I personally agree that OSA/Chandler missed the "release early and often" part of Linus' advice - they took too long to get something even installable out, and they are moving way to slow on usable features. That seems to have been Kapor's history since 1-2-3; I am not aware of any other really usable product he sheparded himself (Notes came from the outside).

OTOH, a good PIM is a very hard thing to design, as evidenced by the fact that we are still using MS Outlook, Notes, and even text files for the purpose. Maybe it really does take this long to think through the problems.

sPh

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Posted Apr 1, 2005 19:23 UTC (Fri) by job (guest, #670) [Link]

No question about it, Chandler lost because of the cathedralesque
development process. They should have hired only half the staff, kept
documenting all the design issues on the public web and immediately
started a mailing list where patches could be accepted and releases made
as often as possible. Chandler will most probably stay unusable until it
reaches maturity. That's not a great way to get other developers
interested.

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