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(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 3, 2002 18:41 UTC (Mon) by Baylink (subscriber, #755)
Parent article: Red Hat and software patents

I think not (said Descartes, and disappeared. :-)

Personally, I concur with the gent who said that the thing he liked best about the Weekly edition was the editorial portion of the 'paper'. I read the daily updates on a fairly regular basis... but I *still* read the weekly, and the reason that I do is because I know there will be something *new* there.

Even if only from a "we can charge advertisers more for the weekly edition" standpoint, I don't think it's especially wise to stop reserving that editorial comment and release it daily instead.

But maybe it's just me.

So many things are just me.


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(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 3, 2002 18:58 UTC (Mon) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

Certainly, not everything will go into the daily stream - mostly just front page stuff, and not all of that either.

One thing we have considered is releasing individual weekly pages (i.e. the kernel page) when it's done, rather than letting it age until Thursday. I'd be curious to see what people think of that idea.

(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 3, 2002 20:15 UTC (Mon) by Baylink (subscriber, #755) [Link]

Nah; I wouldn't even do that.

Personally, at least, one of the things I often do is to snarf One Big Page into a browser at the beginning of the day, then drag the laptop along with me during the day, catching up on whatever I can.

Since it all happens on Thursday, I can do that. If you split it up, I wouldn't be able to.

It's a matter of taste, certainly, and what you're trying to optimize for, but *I* like it a lot better the way it's been.

wget is your friend.

Posted Jun 4, 2002 17:40 UTC (Tue) by GreyWizard (subscriber, #1026) [Link]

[...]one of the things I often do is to snarf One Big Page into a browser at the beginning of the day[...]

Why not use wget (or a similar program) to snarf it all instead?

(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 3, 2002 20:38 UTC (Mon) by nan (guest, #710) [Link]

I enjoy the weekly version very much. I am also a daily reader of the daily updates. For whatever is worth, I would prefer to see the editorial content or any page that goes into the weekly edition (thinking kernel page here) only in there, not in small or bigger pieces as it comes out. It's worth the waiting.

(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 3, 2002 22:48 UTC (Mon) by nettings (subscriber, #429) [Link]

i think editorial content should not go into the daily updates. actually, the "daily" news section is nothing special to lwn, it's just another portal (although well edited) of 90% syndicated and some original content.

what makes lwn.net (and especially the editorial) important to me is the "looking back" perspective. i like to read material whose authors have taken their time and based their judgement on more than one news flash.

i have always liked the way the editors try to take the edge off the latest hype and provide a calm analysis with constructive and diplomatic criticism, to solve rather than fuel a dispute. this is lwn's special trait, and it needs some time.

personally, i like to reconsider a news item with a few days' distance when it comes up in the weekly, even if i have seen it before elsewhere.

this is the reason why i read lwn.net.

(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 4, 2002 11:39 UTC (Tue) by BogusUser ((unknown), #1204) [Link]

> what makes lwn.net (and especially the editorial)
> important to me is the "looking back" perspective.
> i like to read material whose authors have taken
> their time and based their judgement on more than 
> one news flash.
>
> i have always liked the way the editors try to take
> the edge off the latest hype and provide a calm analysis
> with constructive and diplomatic criticism, to solve
> rather than fuel a dispute. this is lwn's special trait,
> and it needs some time.

It certainly is. I couldn't have said it better.

The thing I found about this article was that it didn't
stand out. I thought it was just another link.

> personally, i like to reconsider a news item with a
> few days' distance when it comes up in the weekly, 
> even if i have seen it before elsewhere.

I like the weekly version because it provides a better
reflection of what is actually happening. Day by day is
too fined grained and I don't have time to track it.

It is far too easy to lose something like this in the noise
of the busy daily page. The weekly edition is an excellent
source of good information about new developments. It would
be a shame to lose that in the noise.....

FPE

(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 4, 2002 14:02 UTC (Tue) by fdesloges (subscriber, #291) [Link]

Like all the others I would prefer that the Features be kept for the Weekly.

It may sound pretty weird, but I really like the "Christmas effect" of it. Anything you really like will appear to have more value if you have to ritually wait for it to happen on a fixed date.

I know that it's only a question of perception, but please don't fall to the Cult of the Immediate :-)

Thanks!

pss: By the way, I _still_ find it anoying to have to log in each of the 20 times per day that I open a browser to have a quick look at lwn.

Re-opening a browser

Posted Jun 4, 2002 14:34 UTC (Tue) by Baylink (subscriber, #755) [Link]

While, admittedly, it would be nice if/will be nice when Jon adds a "Keep me logged in" checkbox and a "Log Me Out" link.. are you that pressed for memory that you can't merely minimize and refresh later? :-)

(Meta: should editorial comment go in daily?)

Posted Jun 4, 2002 15:04 UTC (Tue) by lovelace (subscriber, #278) [Link]

I must agree. It's way too easy to lose the editorial in the noise of the daily updates. The weekly editorial is one of the main reasons I read LWN. Having it in with the every day stuff diminishes its impact. I think it would be better to keep it reserved to the weekly edition.

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