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Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now onlineLinux Device Drivers, Third Edition now onlinePosted Mar 15, 2005 0:41 UTC (Tue) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523)Parent article: Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online
I am sorry to ask that, but why not (dual-)licensing it with a GPL-compatible license ? After all the subject matter is under the GPL.
Thanks in advance
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Dual-licensing Posted Mar 15, 2005 3:25 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] Why not dual-license it under the GPL? I guess because none of us saw a reason to do that. Who would benefit? Remember that the examples are already separately licensed dual BSD/GPL, so there's no problem with the code...
Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online Posted Mar 15, 2005 3:53 UTC (Tue) by socket (guest, #43) [Link] The GPL really isn't appropriate for books. It's very particularly targeted to code rather than text or other media. What does "linking" mean in a non-code context, hmm?
Licensing text is rather different from licensing code. There are different priorities people apply when the copyrighted work is code as opposed to text or music. It's hard to even determine what would constitute "free" when these priorities come into play. I'll skip the 30-page essay on the tip of my tongue and just vaguely refer to all the various fights over the "free"ness of the GFDL as an illustration of the problems.
Back to the topic, since I don't remember commenting on earlier articles about it... Congratulations, Jon! I'm glad to see the results of your efforts. I personally don't write very much OS-level code, but if I did, this is the book I'd want. Thanks for licensing it nicely!
Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online Posted Mar 15, 2005 10:32 UTC (Tue) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link] A more practical question: can I use code snippets from the book in a GPL kernel code?
(As for me personally: I bought it anyway)
Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online Posted Mar 16, 2005 3:32 UTC (Wed) by sttng359 (guest, #28502) [Link] The examples are dual BSD/GPL licensed.
Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online Posted Mar 17, 2005 1:41 UTC (Thu) by gregkh (subscriber, #8) [Link] Not all examples are dual licensed, some of them are GPL only due to the fact that they are based on GPL only code.
Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online Posted Mar 15, 2005 14:11 UTC (Tue) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link] > The GPL really isn't appropriate for books. It's very particularly targeted to code rather than text or other media. What does "linking" mean in a non-code context, hmm?
The GPL does not speak of 'linking': the only use of the verb 'to link' in the GPL text is in the last sentence advertising the LGPL.
So far no one has presented arguments that the GPL was not suitable to text that was backed by the actual GPL text.
Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online Posted Mar 16, 2005 1:23 UTC (Wed) by socket (guest, #43) [Link] So, you're right that it doesn't mention linking... much. "This General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs. If your program is a subroutine library, you may consider it more useful to permit linking proprietary applications with the library."
But that was just one example of my point. Maybe the fact that the GPL uses the word "Program" more than fifty times, and the word "document" once, and only in the context that "Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed."
You don't suppose a different license might be more appropriate for a document than a license that doesn't even refer to the work it's licensing as a document?
Linux Device Drivers, Third Edition now online Posted Mar 17, 2005 21:14 UTC (Thu) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link] The word "Program" is not the same as the word "program". "Program" is a technical term for the scope of the GPL that referrs to the work being licensed. It just happens that most Programs are also programs, but it's perfectly acceptable for a Program to be something other than a program.
Consider the analogous "float an_integer = 3.14".
Why the GPL is wrong for documentation Posted Mar 17, 2005 2:13 UTC (Thu) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link] You think there are no problems with applying the GPL to documentation? OK, here's one. You have a GPLed manual, printed out on paper. You give it to a friend. Is that legal?Answer: no, unless you jump through some extra hoops. You need to either provide your friend with the source code for the book (LaTex source, DocBook, OpenOffice file, whatever), or you need to give your friend a written offer, good for three years, to provide the source later on whenever he demands it (though you can charge a fee to cover your expenses in doing this). Even if you want to distribute a PDF, you still need to provide the source, since a PDF is not a preferred form for modification. It will do to put the source on the same FTP or HTTP server.
Why the GPL is fine for documentation (where desired) Posted Mar 17, 2005 7:39 UTC (Thu) by rickmoen (subscriber, #6943) [Link] Joe Buck wrote:You think there are no problems with applying the GPL to documentation? OK, here's one. You have a GPLed manual, printed out on paper. You give it to a friend. Is that legal? Answer: no, unless you jump through some extra hoops. You need to either provide your friend with the source code for the book (LaTex source, DocBook, OpenOffice file, whatever), or you need to give your friend a written offer, good for three years, to provide the source later on whenever he demands it (though you can charge a fee to cover your expenses in doing this). Actually, since you're a non-comercial redistributor, you simply pass along upstream's offer of access to the preferred format, persuant to GPLv2 clause 3c. The obvious place to use GPL for documentation is for HTML docs, or online docs with builtin hyperlinks to SGML or XML source, etc. In that case the "Master copy is at [URL]" header serves as the aforementioned upstream written offer, regardless of how the thing gets subsequently redistributed. And that's pretty much what Michael Stutz wrote, too. Rick Moen
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