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Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3 Posted Jun 3, 2002 17:52 UTC (Mon) by DeletedUser870 ((unknown), #870) [Link] Right now I am fighting a problem with Red Hat 7.3. One of our customers ordered two 1U rackmounts from Chenbro. All the hardware is quite recent, but the installer crashes at indeterminate times throughout the install process. Its not that special, Pentium 4, 40 gig HDD, 2 gig of ram. SuSE 8.0 installs find on it, so I can't figure out what is wrong, other than maby the Kernel was patched way too much.
Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3 Posted Jun 3, 2002 18:25 UTC (Mon) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] All the hardware is quite recent, but the installer crashes at indeterminate times throughout the install process.Any error messages from Anaconda? Did you post this to valhalla-list? https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/valhalla-list/
Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3 Posted Jun 3, 2002 20:14 UTC (Mon) by DeletedUser870 ((unknown), #870) [Link] Nope, no Anaconda messages. It just crashes, and reboots. I tried even regenerating the boot.img disk with a custom disk, and it still crashes.
Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3 Posted Jun 3, 2002 18:40 UTC (Mon) by bluetea (guest, #1108) [Link] I would suggest trying the text mode installer if you haven't already. It seems to be a little more robust for me.
Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3 Posted Jun 3, 2002 20:16 UTC (Mon) by Tim (guest, #122) [Link] I had the same problem--various packages would fail, and the install would crash. Turned out to be a dirty CD. Try checking the MD5 Sums of your CD from the boot prompt.
Try a different CD-ROM Posted Jun 3, 2002 20:18 UTC (Mon) by Baylink (guest, #755) [Link] I had extensive and fairly repeatable problems installing 7.1 which turned out to be traceable to a bad IDE CD-ROM drive. Replacing the drive solved the problems entire.
Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3 Posted Jun 3, 2002 20:28 UTC (Mon) by jonlasser (guest, #1077) [Link] The other likely failure cause is bad RAM. See if you can run memtest86 and find out if there's a bad chip somewhere...
Linuxlookup.com reviews Red Hat 7.3 Posted Jun 4, 2002 10:31 UTC (Tue) by george (guest, #1197) [Link] In a 1U case, your video card is likely to be an old PCI card, not an AGP card as is almost universally used elsewhere. If this is true, the previous poster's advice to try the text mode installation is likely to help, given the problems you report. I had similar problems with a rackmount PC that has a SiS PCI card; they were easy to resolve after a text mode install.
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 3, 2002 20:37 UTC (Mon) by jonlasser (guest, #1077) [Link] I didn't find the content of this review to be much of anything, frankly. It's just like every other Red Hat 7.3 review: Hey, it's got KDE 3! Hey, it's got a recent kernel! It doesn't have a great gcc! It seemed relatively stable on my box with the following hardware... Except for the last point (which should be a given in a Red Hat x.2 or x.3 release) there's nothing in the review that isn't in the press release announcing the package, and certainly nothing one can't figure out after half an hour with the software. None of the reviews mention, for example, talk about whether or not they tried switching between Sendmail and Postfix, a much-trumpeted new feature of the new version. Was it successful? Are there configuration glitches? None of the reviews talk about the 'port' of the Debian alternatives system. Is it useful? Is it easy to configure? More broadly, none of the reviews talk about Red Hat's development arc: where they've been, where they're going next. None of the reviews talk about support their policies (critical to larger organizations); few reviews discuss, say, the Red Hat Network and how well it works, or doesn't. I want reviews that discuss stuff *not* in the press releases. Not just, "It works, it seems stable."
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 3, 2002 21:09 UTC (Mon) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] [snip] few reviews discuss, say, the Red Hat Network and how well it works, or doesn't.In my limited experience (about three weeks) it works well. The web interface ( https://rhn.redhat.com/ ) is pretty crappy IMO, but there's this neat little RHN Gnome panel applet that changes from blue to red (and throbs) when there's a security update available, and which launches up2date when clicked upon. Worth the $60/year, unless you're financially behind the eight ball.
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 3, 2002 22:00 UTC (Mon) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link] I'm not a fan of Microsoft, but I will note that they provide an easy automated software update mechanism for free. I'll also note that they come out with new versions of their OS less then half as often as RedHat.I'm more then a little tired of buying new RedHat releases every six months for almost as much as I'd pay for Windows and then being expected to pay additional money for RedHats automated software update mechanism. Any yes, I realize there are ways to get around this. I just don't feel I should have to.
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 4, 2002 0:08 UTC (Tue) by crouchet (guest, #1084) [Link] >> I'm not a fan of Microsoft, but I will note that they provide an easy automated software update mechanism for free. I'll also note that they come out with new versions of their OS less then half as often as RedHat. << I don't think I can agree with this perspective. Microsoft's update is not free -- they just make you pay for it as part of the package price. As for the frequent releases, if you don't have a need to be on the bleeding edge -- and very few people NEED that -- then just don't upgrade so often. I am not being sarcastic here; with Linux this is a viable alternative. At my work we have a few boxes we keep up to date and some we do not upgrade very often. The cool thing is that RedHat continues to support those older versions for some time and the software works so you do not HAVE to upgrade. For many of our boxes we went from 5.2 to 6.2 to 7.2 and skipped the intermediate steps. Admittedly, the 2.4 kernel and USB functionality are good incentives to get to 7.2, but is there really anything new in 7.3 that you need? If not then just keep enjoying the setup you have. JC
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 4, 2002 0:15 UTC (Tue) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link] >>I don't think I can agree with this perspective. Microsoft's update is not free -- they just make you pay for it as part of the package price.The what am I paying for with RedHat? I haven't looked to see what the standard version of 7.3 costs, but based on previous versions I'd guess it's around $79. I can get Windows for $20 more. The vast majority of the code in RedHat is free, so the profit delta should be substantially higher for RedHat on a per copy basis then it is for Microsoft on windows. Besides, I believe Suse provides this service for free. So why not RedHat? It's a very poor decision on their part to charge additional money for this feature. And it's the main reason I won't be buying their product in the future.
$20 more you can get windows?! Posted Jun 4, 2002 14:09 UTC (Tue) by jeremiah (subscriber, #1221) [Link] You say that for $20 more you can buy windows? Sure, but that's just windows. Does that come with an OfficeSuite? no ...oh that's right that's an additional $250+. You want to write software too? Time to pony up for visual studio 600+. You need to make some graphcs for a web page. DOH!! time for another 600+ for Photoshop. You want to attach your web pages to a robust DB backend. Time to tap another arttery for SQL Server $1000+ I'm going to stop here, since...oh but why..I just realized that you can't leagally run a web server off of your Personal version of Windows. You need the professional version with enoguh licences to handle 100 simultainious users. Is that atleast an additional 10 thousand doallars!!! you better belive it. 'nough said
$20 more you can get windows?! Posted Jun 4, 2002 19:45 UTC (Tue) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link] Somebody is missing the point here.Besides, I can install windows, openoffice and Cygwin and have pretty much everything I get with Linux. Not that I prefer that choice, but it's a choice none the less. Linux advocacy is nice, but let's not lose site of reality here. Linux was way pre 1.0 when I first started following it. I'm very familer with what it is and what it is capable of.
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 4, 2002 2:25 UTC (Tue) by gerdts (guest, #226) [Link] I'm more then a little tired of buying new RedHat releases every six months for almost as much as I'd pay for Windows ...If you don't want new features more often than that, why do you upgrade? If you want new features more often than that, then you obviously must not be happy with Microsoft's slow update cycle. FWIW, I write this message from a Red Hat 7.1 machine with various updates from Ximian and some hand-picked RPMs from Red Hat 7.2 and 7.3. ... and then being expected to pay additional money for RedHats automated software update mechanism.The other day I installed 7.3 on a couple machines (one for work, one for home). I followed the path led by the update icon, registered with RHN, and got my updates. I never shelled out any cash and everything worked fine. The only point in the process that I spent extra time over paying for the service was when I downloaded and burned the CD's.
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 4, 2002 4:39 UTC (Tue) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link] My understanding is that with newer versions you get 30 days and thats it. I'll admit I haven't bothered to register either of the copies of 7.2 that I bought though. This assumption is based on some email I've gotten from RedHat over the past year or so. Perhaps I misread them.
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 4, 2002 15:21 UTC (Tue) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] I'm not a fan of Microsoft [snip]Me neither. :^) As far as the MSFT to Red Hat comparison, for me it's a non-issue, since MSFT doesn't make an operating system product that meets my needs. They could give me a copy of Windows XP (or rather, a license agreement, since you really can't own a copy of anything MSFT sells) for free and I wouldn't use it. $180 US a year (two RH boxed sets and one RHN subscription) seems pretty reasonable to me, since it works out to about 50 cents a day. That's one 12 oz. Coke.
too many reviews, not enough content Posted Jun 4, 2002 19:48 UTC (Tue) by emkey (guest, #144) [Link] And it's not reasonable to me. Nor to many other people I suspect.I'll just download the images, burn 'em and install them from now one. I'm happy to support free software, but RedHat doesn't provide me with enough value at this point.
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