How would you shrink Fedora? [LWN.net]

How would you shrink Fedora?

Posted Feb 24, 2005 21:30 UTC (Thu) by b7j0c (guest, #27559)
In reply to: How would you shrink Fedora? by nicku
Parent article: How would you shrink Fedora?

>> In Australia, if you live out of the big smoke, there is little alternative to dial up

but thats still a network connection...

in any case i would not develop a major distro with you as a target market. 99% of fedora users most likely have a broadband connection, if not 99.99%.

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How would you shrink Fedora?

Posted Feb 25, 2005 3:21 UTC (Fri) by dlang (subscriber, #313) [Link]

I have a 'broadband' connection that's 144k. I am paying $89/month for this line and cannot get a faster line (satellite may be a possibility, and _may_ be faster, but it's even more expensive)

by the way, I'm in the US, within easy commuting distance of downtown Los Angeles

now as it happens I'm not interested in Fedora anyway due to not liking several things RedHat has done (both technicaly and otherwise) but saying that you wouldn't produce a distro that I would have any ability to use at home just shrinks your potential userbase.

also for corporate use, many companies want a local, static installation source so that they can be very sure that the Nth machine they build is exactly like the first (no 'upgrades' slipping in on them) and as such many of them also won't be willing to do a network install

your potential userbase is getting smaller and smaller

How would you shrink Fedora?

Posted Feb 25, 2005 6:00 UTC (Fri) by b7j0c (guest, #27559) [Link]

>> but saying that you wouldn't produce a distro that I would have any ability to use at home just shrinks your potential userbase.

why would you not be able to use a one CD distro at home with a 144k connection? the average package size i suspect is under 5MB.

>> also for corporate use, many companies want a local, static installation source so that they can be very sure that the Nth machine they build is exactly like the first

speaking as someone who works at a company that must install a free OS on tens of thousands of rackmount servers, any company that is trying to do this by CD is retarded. typically installs like this are done by cloning an image, for which tools already exist and are network-based. seeing as most 1U boxes do not have CD drives, its not clear what purpose the disc serves other than as a Mountain Dew coaster.

How would you shrink Fedora?

Posted Feb 25, 2005 15:36 UTC (Fri) by yodermk (subscriber, #3803) [Link]

> I have a 'broadband' connection that's 144k. I am paying $89/month for this line and cannot get a faster line (satellite may be a possibility, and _may_ be faster, but it's even more expensive)

> by the way, I'm in the US, within easy commuting distance of downtown Los Angeles

Wow, I'm in Ecuador, paying $85/month for 128k. Didn't figure it got that bad in the States!

Nevertheless, it *is* adequate for keeping my Gentoo install up to date, and downloading ISOs when needed. Just takes a night and a day... :(