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IBM to invest $100 million in Linux push (News.com)IBM to invest $100 million in Linux push (News.com)Posted Feb 18, 2005 21:16 UTC (Fri) by mmarq (guest, #2332)In reply to: IBM to invest $100 million in Linux push (News.com) by nix Parent article: IBM to invest $100 million in Linux push (News.com)
"...white boxes are a pain to administer; one or two Linux-on-S/390 boxes are much easier to get to grips with, and probably pay for the box in reduced power costs alone"
From the *real* system and network administrative point of view i belive that is correct.
But that is not a problem of *White* anything is a problem between centraly managed and distributedly managed... worst, server consolidation in that way rarely escapes out of the corporate world, while the enourmous majority from large companys to the SOHO will belive any crap that MS says, simply because they dont have comparisation points, S/390 iron is not to be found anyware on the usual resellers, and if they ask directly to IBM they will give up on experimentation and comparisation faster than a flash because of the price.
I'm not against IBM, i simply wonder why traditional Unix world as long forgot the masses of users and apparently still does. Belive that superior solutions dont do any good if they are inresonable difficult to find and are not reasonably and affordly taylored. Enormous profit margins wont came back anymore, and if you fight hard enough the called "White Box(=For the masses)" fenomenon, you will only end up getting out of the market or having to invent new names to sell *white box*,... as SUN discovered.
Sure there always will be market for special iron, but i belive that with x86_64 exploding, the market for those *special* iron (Data Center and Carrier Grade) will get much shorter than it is now. Belive that our favorite Bill in the world is already planning walk partys to the bank, with the sacs of money!...
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IBM to invest $100 million in Linux push (News.com) Posted Feb 19, 2005 19:28 UTC (Sat) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] But that is not a problem of *White* anything is a problem between centraly managed and distributedly managed...No, it's a problem of hardware reliability. When you have thousands of machines, you pretty much have to employ people just to fix boxes that fail because of hardware problems; of course, you also need failover and similar stuff to ensure that individual box failures don't break anything. While doing all this may be appropriate in some circumstances (Google does something like it, massively distributed), it's certainly not the only option, and if you've got enough boxes, replacing the lot of them with one or two pieces of big iron may be a good move.
IBM to invest $100 million in Linux push (News.com) Posted Feb 26, 2005 2:11 UTC (Sat) by dberkholz (subscriber, #23346) [Link] If you like losing half of everything you've got after one hardware failure...
IBM to invest $100 million in Linux push (News.com) Posted Mar 6, 2005 15:52 UTC (Sun) by hazelsct (subscriber, #3659) [Link] Actually, it takes multiple simultaneous hardware failures to bring down a mainframe. They are extremely reliable machines with *average* uptimes in years. Yes, a handful of Linux or BSD servers can make it that long, but the average is more like months.
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