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Novell Teams With IBM to Promote SUSE on the POWER architecture

Novell, Inc. has announced a joint promotion with IBM. "Novell and IBM have launched a joint promotion to encourage software developers to build their applications for Novell's SUSE(R) LINUX Enterprise Server on IBM POWER platforms. SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9, with the scalability and performance enhancements of the 2.6 Linux kernel, combined with the processing capabilities of IBM POWER5 processor-based servers, including IBM eServer OpenPower, IBM eServer BladeCenter JS20, IBM eServer pSeries and IBM eServer iSeries, provides a strong foundation for a full range of applications."
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Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 10, 2005 19:57 UTC (Thu) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link]

I would love to see more activity on non-x86 (and by x86 I mean AMD and Intel) linux. A major distro fully supporting package repos, optimized builds etc would go a long way to a truly heterogenous linux market. While YellowDog has made great strides, this has not resulted in a slew of new non-Apple PPC boxes aimed at x86 desktop users. If these boxes could be made to trump x86 in price/performance in the sub $2000 market, I would probably bite. I appreciate the work YellowDog has done but unfortunately they don't seem to have enough momentum in the distro market to change the game.

Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 10, 2005 20:31 UTC (Thu) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link]

> A major distro fully supporting package repos, optimized builds etc would
> go a long way to a truly heterogenous linux market.

Erm, what's wrong with Debian? They are committed to supporting standard Debian on _ALL_ platforms, including PPC of course. They require just about every package to build for all platforms before it can be included on any platform.

Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 10, 2005 21:46 UTC (Thu) by b7j0c (subscriber, #27559) [Link]

you are right, i overlooked debian. i stand corrected.

Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 10, 2005 21:50 UTC (Thu) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link]

Also I heard a rumor that some folks were working on getting a PPC-based Ubuntu distro, which seems like it would be really nice.

PPC, to me, is not that lacking in support. It's when you get past Intel/AMD and PPC that things start getting really lonely :-).

Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 10, 2005 22:02 UTC (Thu) by jdub (subscriber, #27) [Link]

Ubuntu already supports 32 bit powerpc (save a Mac user today!), but not the POWER architectures (yet).

Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 10, 2005 22:04 UTC (Thu) by darthmdh (guest, #8032) [Link]

Ubuntu ship PPC support. x86, PPC, and amd64/em64t. I have the 'warty' CD's on my desk for all these.

Now, if only they shipped SPARC ;)

Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 11, 2005 1:05 UTC (Fri) by jdub (subscriber, #27) [Link]

There's a currently unsupported community effort to build Ubuntu on SPARC:: sparc.ubuntu.com. You can help by testing and fixing SPARC-specific bugs. :-)

Awesome, this is a great step

Posted Feb 10, 2005 21:09 UTC (Thu) by leandro (guest, #1460) [Link]

> I would love to see more activity on non-x86 (and by x86 I mean AMD and Intel) linux

We already have Debian and YellowDog and Gentoo and SuSE. IBM is just helping promote SuSE, because they want to sell IBM DB2 and other software on the PowerPC GNU/Linux platform. What we need for desktop use is not IBM marketing support, but IBM either helping swf_player reaching interactive Flash support and Sun Java sporting a Mozilla plugin (preferrably), or strongarming Macromedia and Sun into porting their stuff fully.

Also, it would help if IBM could open more source for its software and coach partners such as Apple and Oracle to follow suit. Heck, it would help even if they removed copy control from IBM DB2 -- right now it is much easier to install and run Oracle because Oracle trusts you to license.

Novell Teams With IBM to Promote SUSE on the POWER architecture... for Server!!

Posted Feb 10, 2005 21:52 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

Actualy i wouldn't mind to run my prime workstation on POWER5.

But i belive the commodity force of the market will make that worksation more than 2 times expensive then a less powerfull but suitable AMD or Intel one...

Is it me, or is this a tremendous 'DEJA VU', where traditional Unix vendors are pushing their architectures on an Unix or Unix like OS, but Microsoft with less features and less security, and with the tremendous *leveling* power of an accepted Desktop standard will push into *carrier grade* and *very heavy duty server* as x86 and x86_64 will get good enough power for the job... and Microsoft will kick hard bottoms, once again as in the past!...

I mean traditional Unix or Unix like vendor seem to want to die first before they *OPEN* their traditional architectures to commodity forces and then really play grand in the markets;... the idea here in mind is to define a STANDARD platform for POWER or SPARC or ITANIC or PA-RISC..., based on HyperTransport, PCI, PCIX, PCIe, and DDR or DDR2 or DDR3 registed and not, and of couse an *OpenBIOS Standard* be it based on EFI or LinuxBIOS or other.

I dont know, but i belive some of this architectures already implement the majority of features described above, but *there isn't hardware interoperability* in the sense that if you have a Linux system on AMD and want to change to POWER5 you will only have to change mobo... a commoditized mobo plus the new CPU,... and re-install PPC Linux and programs *on the same disk* that you had before.

Now i have done it, traditional Unix vendor(SUN special) will have me killed for sugesting the possibility of the 'White Box' crowd entering the party. They will seem to defenitly wanting to die several deads before doing such thing. And if anyone remenber SUN troubles, and IBM selling their PC operation ?, then that is only an augury, because die or get out of the market they will, without understanding the connection why Destops standards should be defined and generaly accepted first than the server that only exist to serve those Desktops(Linus started Linux on a 386 PC), and why if they get Carrier Grade or Heavy Duty Server specification equal to HAL9000, still people will prefer Lousyer Microsoft OSEs on commodity something.

This isn't the first time, and i dont belive is only *profit ties*!... dont really want to be unpolite but it seems traditional Unix vendors like to lose or be kicked hard...!!?

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