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Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

MozillaZine covers the latest release schedule for version 1.1 of the Firefox browser. "The final version of 1.1, previously scheduled for March, will now be released a little later than originally planned (an exact date isn't given). In addition, there will be a series of test builds issued before 1.1 final: a Developer Preview, a Preview Release and one or more release candidates. Mozilla Firefox 1.1 isn't expected to contain any major new features but will include updated versions of core components such as Gecko, which has received many improvements over the last few months."
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Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 27, 2005 22:20 UTC (Thu) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

I wonder if the 1.1 release will finally have the ability to email a link. I've heard rumors of people achieving that functionality through various hacks, but with firefox 1.0 from the firefox download site, as well as packaged versions from various places, clicking on file -> "send link" does nothing. It can't find the thunderbird mail client, nor any other mail program installed on my system.

There are bugzilla entries for this, so it is a known issue. I can't imagine why firefox is shipping sans this simple and fundamental ability. If it's all just a mistake on my part, I'd love to hear what I'm doing wrong.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 27, 2005 23:02 UTC (Thu) by AndyBurns (subscriber, #27521) [Link]

> I wonder if the 1.1 release will finally have the ability to email a link.

If you're having a problem it won't help you much to know that it works for me, using FF1.0 and TB1.0, but it certainly *can* work, rather than *doesn't* work ...

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 0:25 UTC (Fri) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

If you're having a problem it won't help you much to know that it works for me, using FF1.0 and TB1.0, but it certainly *can* work, rather than *doesn't* work ...

Well, it's good to hear some confirmation that it can be made to work. Are you saying that you simply installed FF and TB, and it was all good, everything working? If so, then your environment must be very different from mine, and perhaps some assumptions made by the firefox developers hold true in your environment and not in mine.

For instance, one popular assumption was that everybody runs gnome and evolution, without exception. Wrong. I run kde, and don't even have evolution installed. In any case, the advice about tweaking gconf is no help, and I've not yet seen a working FF+TB on my system.

Oddly enough, the developers seem to have bent over backwards to make sure everything "just works" on microsoft windows.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 2:18 UTC (Fri) by smoogen (subscriber, #97) [Link]

I think you may have more problems with your system than you know. I only use Firefox and Thunderbird with XFCE. It just worked. No playing around etc. I did start with fresh .thunderbird and .mozilla directories and I am not trying to get it to use KDE mail or Evolution.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 2:46 UTC (Fri) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

I think you may have more problems with your system than you know

No idea what you mean there. I've got several systems, all up to date, and all working perfectly. All other browsers (mozilla, netscape, konqueror, opera etc - and in fact all other applications) work as they should, but in every case, File->send link in firefox does nothing, and as a result firefox for me is an occasionally used toy, an interesting curiosity. I depend on good old mozilla day to day, since it works as expected, out of the box, so to speak, even though it's not quite as snappy as firefox.

If I hear you correctly, it sounds like you are saying "it works for me, so your system is screwed up and you're too dumb to realize it"

mmkey, thanks for the advice...

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 3:37 UTC (Fri) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]

sorry I can't be more help, but I have to chip in with another 'it works for me'

I have a slackware system (with Windowmaker not KDE or Gnome) with firefox installed in /home/dlang/firefox and thunderbird installed in /home/dlang/thunderbird and firefox manages to find thunderbird for the file->send link option

does thunderbird work for you by itself? I'm wondering if it needs to run to set the appropriate things for firfox to find.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 4:05 UTC (Fri) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

...with firefox installed in /home/dlang/firefox and thunderbird installed in /home/dlang/thunderbird and firefox manages to find thunderbird for the file->send link option

Aha... you have write permission on the firefox system files. I wonder if that's the case with others for whom it works. Mine is a system-wide install, and owned by root, but readable by all, just like mozilla etc. only the user's config files, in the user home directory, are writeable by the user.

does thunderbird work for you by itself? I'm wondering if it needs to run to set the appropriate things for firfox to find.

Yes thunderbird works fine by itself, and will gladly pop up a firefox window when I click on a URL in an email.

Thanks for the lead, I'll look into this further when I get a chance.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 13:26 UTC (Fri) by adam@linuxbox.nu (guest, #16734) [Link]

I'm running Debian's Firefox and Thunderbird (global install) under Fluxbox and nothing else. The "Send Link..." option doesn't do anything for me either, so don't worry, you're not alone :)

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 14:01 UTC (Fri) by jonth (subscriber, #4008) [Link]

I'm running Debian's Firefox and Evolution under GNOME. Send link works fine for me.

J

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 28, 2005 17:21 UTC (Fri) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

I am also running Debian's Firefox under GNOME, but I do not have Evolution installed, and send link does NOT work for me.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 29, 2005 13:18 UTC (Sat) by kmccarty (subscriber, #12085) [Link]

I'm using Firefox/Thunderbird under Debian's GNOME too, and it's working for me. Try this:

In Applications->Desktop Preferences->Advanced->Preferred Applications, select the "Mail Reader" tab. Choose the "Custom Mail Reader" radio button, and in the "Command" box, enter the following:

mozilla-thunderbird -compose '%s'

Maybe restart GNOME afterwards, just to make sure. Does that help?

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 29, 2005 17:07 UTC (Sat) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]

Yeah, that works. I had 'firefox' selected - I don't know if that was my dumb mistake, or the default. Thanks.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 29, 2005 18:31 UTC (Sat) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

In Applications->Desktop Preferences->Advanced->Preferred Applications, select the "Mail Reader" tab. Choose the "Custom Mail Reader" radio button, and in the "Command" box, enter the following:

mozilla-thunderbird -compose '%s'

Any ideas for KDE users?

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Apr 1, 2005 17:48 UTC (Fri) by russbutton (guest, #28964) [Link]

I'm running Fedora Core 3 and Windowmaker. I found the suitable gnome tool at:

/usr/bin/gnome-default-applications-properties

Now to figure out where the actual config file is that it changes...

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 29, 2005 2:41 UTC (Sat) by flewellyn (subscriber, #5047) [Link]

I don't know that the previous poster was saying "you're too dumb to realize it". I've had systems (especially Red Hat pre 8.0, and Mandrake) where library upgrades, or odd combinations of libraries, could induce the strangest bugs in certain programs. Usually it was the more complex software, which had lots of dependent libraries, that would break. Not picking up on this immediately is no fault of yours; sometimes (especially with complex packages, and ESPECIALLY especially if C++ is involved), the breakage can be subtle and hard to localize.

But if it's not working, it could well be a sign of some deeper breakage. All I might suggest is, check what Firefox links against using ldd. Then carefully check the versions you have installed versus the versions that Firefox recommends. See if your distro has a dependency and version checker (I know that Debian and Gentoo can both do that). If that fails to resolve the problem, you might try compiling your own Firefox.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Mar 6, 2005 23:44 UTC (Sun) by xx (guest, #28271) [Link]

run gnome-default-applications-properties
from a terminal in either kde or gnome (or any other wm). mozilla-firefox seems to use gnome settings there. no log-out/in should be needed...

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 29, 2005 4:16 UTC (Sat) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

Following up on my original comment, it's interesting to see how many people are saying that the send link function in firefox simply does nothing for them. As well, the number of bugzilla entries show that this is a real problem.

Judging from the feedback here, there seem to be 2 classes of people for whom firefox actually works when they select send link:

  • those who have evolution installed
  • those who did a "personal" install of firefox in their home directories.

Just for kicks, I tried this on a machine with evolution installed, and lo and behold, it fires up evolution. Granted, this was the suse package of firefox 1.0, but the fact is, there was no option that I could see anywhere in the firefox options, to change that, so if I didn't happen to have evolution on that machine, firefox would silently fail, as it has on my other systems.

Folks, this is not a problem with my system, it's a problem with firefox.

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 30, 2005 21:33 UTC (Sun) by massimiliano (subscriber, #3048) [Link]

Judging from the above responses, the problem is that firefox by default uses Gnome's settings, and this is neither configurable nor evident.
So in this sense yes, it is a probem with firefox... but maybe just making more obvious that it's using your desktop's configuration would be enough!

Updated Schedule for Mozilla Firefox 1.1 (MozillaZine)

Posted Jan 30, 2005 21:59 UTC (Sun) by einstein (subscriber, #2052) [Link]

Yes it certainly seems that the firefox/linux developers made the assumption that all linux users run the gnome desktop. Odd considering the popularity of KDE, and the number of users who also run alternative desktop environments like enlightenment, icewm, blackbox, etc. In a vanilla gnome-only world, firefox would work well as is, but the reality is quite different from that.

Rather than depending on some gnome data structure or environment variable, which is absent or null on most linux systems, it would make a lot more sense to provide a firefox attribute, clearly visible on a firefox configuration menu, to specify the mailer program. Perhaps several pre-set choices could be supplied (mozilla-mail, thunderbird, evolution, kmail, mutt) and a custom option for those who might want to specify their own mailer and arguments.

Send Link works on Windows with WebMailCompose

Posted Feb 4, 2005 22:50 UTC (Fri) by devinjones (guest, #11272) [Link]

When I click "Send Link" I get a new tab open to Yahoo Mail compose.
I have the WebMailCompose extension which directs all mailto requests to the web mail provider of my choice.

Devin

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