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Red Hat 8.0's bid for the simple, easy to use Linux desktop (Register)
The Register
reviews the installation of Red Hat 8.0 on an IBM ThinkPad laptop.
"Shock number one was it installed without any hassle. No comments
here on partitioning and dual booting, as I was happy just vaping the
hard drive(which I appeared to have vaped already for some reason anyway), and accepting the defaults."
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Red Hat 8.0's bid for the simple, easy to use Linux desktop (Register) Posted Oct 9, 2002 3:35 UTC (Wed) by cwhuang (guest, #6200) [Link] In the newly release Red Hat Linux 8.0 distribution, we found that thenational flag of Taiwan, the Republic of China (ROC, not PROC), had been removed from the KDE 3.0 Control Center. Red Hat removed our flag because they are afraid of offending the Red China. No doubt, The Republic of China is our official nation name, and the modification made by Please keep our freedom to choose the flag of ours. For more information, see http://www.linux.org.tw/rh8-kde/
558 # remove taiwanese flag 735 * Mon Aug 5 2002 Than Ngo than@redhat.com 3.0.2-7.2
Red Hat 8.0's bid for the simple, easy to use Linux desktop (Register) Posted Oct 9, 2002 14:58 UTC (Wed) by tjc (guest, #137) [Link] ...the modification made by the company is nothing but an evil political attack against our nationality.I think Red Hat's intentions were probably more benign than this. They probably just wanted to keep/make some sales in China, and it backfired on them. Best of luck getting your flag restored to KDE where it belongs.
Removal of Taiwan flag Posted Oct 10, 2002 10:22 UTC (Thu) by beejaybee (guest, #1581) [Link] (a) Has Red Hat any right to do this?(b) Would it not be as much within the rights of the KDE Project to insist that their product is not corrupted by removal of graphics as it is for Red Hat to insist that their logos are removed from "illicit" copies? The point here is that sauce for the goose is also sauce for the gander. I sort of understand that Red Hat doesn't want to upset the Government of the Peoples Republic of China, but I think they have seriously underestimated the backlash this action could have in other markets, worldwide. I have very, very few direct links with any part of Asia, but I for one will not be upgrading my many Red Hat 7.x systems to Red Hat 8.x - I'm already investigating converting to Debian.
Removal of Taiwan flag Posted Oct 17, 2002 19:08 UTC (Thu) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] >(a) Has Red Hat any right to do this?>(b) Would it not be as much within the rights of the KDE Project to insist that their product is not corrupted by removal of graphics as it is for Red Hat to insist that their logos are removed from "illicit" copies? Keep in mind we are dealing with Software Libre, here. Of course, RH has the right to do that. They just have to acknowledge the fact that they do so (as a courtesy, at least), as they certainly do, in the changelogs. For KDE to say they couldn't do it would mean KDE was no longer Software Libre -- they'd be placing conditions on modification and redistribution. Of course, KDE COULD take the same position RH itself is taking, with regard to *LOGO-ED* distribution, requiring relogo-ing to remove the KDE, just as RH is requiring the removal of RH logos by redistributers. Anyway, I'm glad I'm on Mandrake, although I'm thinking of eventually switching to Debian as well, seeing as that is where the majority of Linux developers seem to end up.
Red Hat 8.0's bid for the simple, easy to use Linux desktop (Register) Posted Oct 10, 2002 15:01 UTC (Thu) by son77 (guest, #6378) [Link] I see this that way:for RedHat to enter China, they have to make "political" modification so people can use it. Now I don't think RedHat likes the government of China. They are doing this for user to be able to access it. In fact, it could be possible that this government (like always) is making pressure on any "external distributors" to make sure everything is "politicaly correct" for them. Just keep in mind that China as placed 500 000 foreign web sites on an access blacklist, hijacked Google's domains, etc. Also, since the comment has been kept on like 558 in kdebase.spec, it's a way for you to bypass it and put back again the flag. Finally, I think the flag should be kept, but if you feel the modification is "an evil political attack against your nationality", blame China.
Red Hat 8.0's bid for the simple, easy to use Linux desktop (Register) Posted Oct 13, 2002 16:45 UTC (Sun) by bentong (guest, #6530) [Link] Think about this topic in a logical way.Redhat is a commercial company. It can sell its particular product for China only. I mean it can remove every ll0n or i18n options associated with zh_TW or TW for its own product. And announce its product does not support any localization of Taiwan. Fine, be honest, we can accept that. But it cant cheat Open Source Communities like a thief steals the flag form TW completion. Shame on redhat.
Red Hat 8.0's bid for the simple, easy to use Linux desktop (Register) Posted Jan 31, 2004 23:19 UTC (Sat) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link] Posting a reply in an obscure, old place to test out some of the new comment code on the production server...
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