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MS market shareMS market sharePosted Jan 11, 2005 22:07 UTC (Tue) by roelofs (subscriber, #2599)In reply to: The Grumpy Editor's guide to 2005 by Duncan Parent article: The Grumpy Editor's guide to 2005 now with Firefox, for the first time in desktop history AFAIK, MS is losing market share in real, measurable, numbers. Perhaps, but keep in mind that it's a free-as-in-beer market, so it's not really in the same class as if they were losing OS or office-suite market shared (i.e., their cash cows). Indeed, I'd argue that their ongoing losses in the web-server space are far more interesting. (Of course, that's not on the desktop.) Greg
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MS market share Posted Jan 12, 2005 11:59 UTC (Wed) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link] Well, you make a good point, but keep in mind who it was that /made/ it a"free as in beer" market, the investment they've sunk, and the integration they've achieved. If there's one thing we know about MS, it's that it did NOT do all this "out of the goodness of their heart"! What do /they/ think about the browser? 1) It might not be MS Office, but keep in mind how much elements of MS Office depend on IE and that integration. 2) Wean users of that integration, and you've already gone a good way to prying them out of MS' grasp, OOo may be next, then it becomes increasingly easy to jump off the platform altogether, particularly for those many corporates where the browser/internet and Office suite are really all that functionally matter on 90% of their desktops. At that point, the increased stability and security of Linux (plus the multiple vendor sources = no lock-in thing) begin to loom ever larger in their sights, because the functionality of the apps is no longer locked onto one platform, and they /can/ look elsewhere. Employees take OOo and FF home with them, first to use on their own MSWormOS desktops, then eventually they too consider the switch to Linux not that big a deal, after they see that it too has a nice point and click interface, unlike the command line they were scared of years before when they first heard the term "Linux". BTW, it seems some mainline sites are quoting Firefox in the 20s percent now and still rising, with IE 70s and dropping. When I first posted, FF was in the teens and the IE drop was still single digits, just barely out of the 5%-ish margin of error, with its share still in the 80s. The FF share has doubled since then, nearly all of it coming from IE. It's not coming from the others (like the Konqueror/KHTML rendering I use, I'm not just a FF zealot by any means) as they've hardly budged. Duncan
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