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Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java licenseSun yanks FreeBSD's Java licensePosted Jan 11, 2005 10:20 UTC (Tue) by brianomahoney (subscriber, #6206)In reply to: Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license by mrshiny Parent article: Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license
The simple point is that SUN cannot be trusted, it seems, to play nice in the community, and they cant have it both ways.
BSD and the Linux distribution vendors are NOT Microsoft, and so preventing them from distributing a configured Java environment just means that Java is a hassle to install and use.
Corporations, and SUN in particular must learn that 'linkage' will no longer work in an environment where software is commoditized; SUN have, unfortunately a long history of this eg the C compiler, Java on SunOS.
Finally, as was said in another forum, and entirely contrary to what the poster said, complex tookits doom more projects than anything else.
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Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license Posted Jan 11, 2005 20:24 UTC (Tue) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] "... complex tookits doom more projects than anything else. "
But they are a thing of the futur: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/rib?open&S_TACT=10...
It is just that the traditional look and feel of Java Apps happen to suck so immensely...
But my real point, concerning toolkits voted to widgets and "apperence" in general, it has yet to be field the promise of a easy and strinking usefull way, in any OS environment out there, of separating the GUI out of the executing body of the application and associetated librarys. Toolkits are intermingled badly with the languages and implementations.
What is needed,IMO, is a IDL, like in OS2 example, or a much better one, that can "speak", a compatible Qt version, along with a compatible GTK version, along with...
Yes i'm asking for the "impossible" of making the relative "extremely" easy task of making a Qt or a GTK or a Java toolkit,... compatible with each other by means of an IDL that as a "metatoolkit" implementation as a reference. The idea is not the metatoolkit completly "eclipse" the others, but the others incorporating the directives and code of the metatoolkit, so that any application have the same look&feel, and yes, it can be there applications with GUIS that are based on one toolkit but have some widgets or dialogues of another toolkit... can it be done?
Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license Posted Jan 13, 2005 9:39 UTC (Thu) by rjw (guest, #10415) [Link] Take a look at methatheme. Trying to solve the look-and-feel bit of the problem.
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