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Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

Posted Jan 10, 2005 16:33 UTC (Mon) by ami.ganguli (guest, #9613)
Parent article: Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

I really don't understand Sun's strategy. Why are the limiting binary distribution of something they give away for free (beer) anyway?


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Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

Posted Jan 10, 2005 17:47 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

They want to control it. They do not like kaffe, gcj or some other uncontrolled surrogate to replace their implementation. Thay are using a lot of tricks to do so. Kinda shows you what you'll be getting if you'll buy into "open-sourced solaris" thing

Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

Posted Jan 11, 2005 7:43 UTC (Tue) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link]

I really don't understand Sun's strategy. Why are the limiting binary distribution of something they give away for free (beer) anyway?
They want to control it. They do not like kaffe, gcj or some other uncontrolled surrogate to replace their implementation.

But that is precisely why Sun's attempts to limit the binary distribution of their own Java implementation are so weird! If Sun ensured that every platform had a well-working JVM and JDK in binary form with easy licenses, so all vendors/distro makers/BSD projects could include it without problems, very few people would be interested in kaffe, gcj etc.

Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

Posted Jan 10, 2005 17:50 UTC (Mon) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

Easy!

I belive they want everybody to download the SUN Java pack, out of SUN sites, as a marketing strategy... Since there are already much less bloated and as good or better than SUN, Java VMs and JIT out there... they, SUN, want to score points has inventors of the language .


Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

Posted Jan 11, 2005 10:04 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Since there are already much less bloated and as good or better than SUN, Java VMs and JIT out there...
Really? Name one.

There are good java compilers; but there is currently no effective competing VM or JDK to my knowledge (not least because Sun's implementations of the VM and JDK have an incestuous and undocumented interrelationship so you effectively can't reimplement one without reimplementing the other, too).

If there is one, please tell me what it is: I'd like to get rid of the last non-free software on my machine.

Sun yanks FreeBSD's Java license

Posted Jan 11, 2005 11:44 UTC (Tue) by dmantione (guest, #4640) [Link]

The IBM JDK is quite good. It's a little bit hard to find on the IBM website, but it is there, up to date, and I'm using it.

However, it is just as propietary as the Sun JDK. However, I have more respect for IBM than I have for Sun, so I'm using that one.

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