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keep the pissing contests for IRC

Posted Jan 10, 2005 12:13 UTC (Mon) by coolian (guest, #14818)
In reply to: keep the pissing contests for IRC by dw
Parent article: grsecurity 2.1.0 and kernel vulnerabilities

Just remember, the Pax guy is trying to do a good thing, and wants it
fixed. He may have the social graces of a walrus, but he's at least
*doing* something about a problem. Stop ripping the guy and acting like
armchair quarterbacks.

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Posted Jan 10, 2005 12:29 UTC (Mon) by zorgan (guest, #4016) [Link]

May I politely request that everybody stops confusing the PaX team with
the grsecurity developers? I haven't seem anybody of the PaX team
"behaving like a social walrus" (not that I think this term would be fair
to Brad Spengler, either).

Anyway, the suggestion that Andrea Arcangeli would currently be more of a
VM maintainer than Linus Torvalds or Andrew Morton is so funny that I
don't understand why anybody took sbergman27 seriously. He has done
important development on the VM a couple of times, but he has never
adopted anything like a maintainer's role, AFAIK.

But I think the main point remains (and that's why this discussion makes
sense): If Linus and akpm get too much flooded with e-mails that they
cannot even reply to a local DoS report within 3 weeks, then maybe they
should appoint someone to be a security contact person? Someone who is
willing to look into such reports, can judge their severity, and contact
the relevant maintainers to review proposed patches etc.?

keep the pissing contests for IRC

Posted Jan 11, 2005 8:11 UTC (Tue) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]

Why's it funny that "Andrea would be more of a VM mainainer than Linus"?

After all, it was *Andrea* that *wrote* the thing in the first place, not Linus...

Cheers,
Wol

keep the pissing contests for IRC

Posted Jan 11, 2005 20:11 UTC (Tue) by zorgan (guest, #4016) [Link]

Because *writing* != *maintaining*.

Maintaining means reviewing other people's patches, forwarding them to
tree maintainers, making sure the code stays clean and well-documented,
etc. Andrea has not even bothered much sending his own to Linus/Marcelo.