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keep the pissing contests for IRCkeep the pissing contests for IRCPosted Jan 9, 2005 22:07 UTC (Sun) by dw (subscriber, #12017)In reply to: poor social estrategy by PaXTeam Parent article: grsecurity 2.1.0 and kernel vulnerabilities
If there is still a problem here, take it to e-mail, or IRC. LWN comment postings are not the place for it - remember your comments will probably exist here long after you cease to.
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keep the pissing contests for IRC Posted Jan 10, 2005 12:13 UTC (Mon) by coolian (guest, #14818) [Link] Just remember, the Pax guy is trying to do a good thing, and wants itfixed. He may have the social graces of a walrus, but he's at least *doing* something about a problem. Stop ripping the guy and acting like armchair quarterbacks.
keep the pissing contests for IRC Posted Jan 10, 2005 12:29 UTC (Mon) by zorgan (guest, #4016) [Link] May I politely request that everybody stops confusing the PaX team withthe grsecurity developers? I haven't seem anybody of the PaX team "behaving like a social walrus" (not that I think this term would be fair to Brad Spengler, either). Anyway, the suggestion that Andrea Arcangeli would currently be more of a VM maintainer than Linus Torvalds or Andrew Morton is so funny that I don't understand why anybody took sbergman27 seriously. He has done important development on the VM a couple of times, but he has never adopted anything like a maintainer's role, AFAIK. But I think the main point remains (and that's why this discussion makes sense): If Linus and akpm get too much flooded with e-mails that they cannot even reply to a local DoS report within 3 weeks, then maybe they should appoint someone to be a security contact person? Someone who is willing to look into such reports, can judge their severity, and contact the relevant maintainers to review proposed patches etc.?
keep the pissing contests for IRC Posted Jan 11, 2005 8:11 UTC (Tue) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link] Why's it funny that "Andrea would be more of a VM mainainer than Linus"?
After all, it was *Andrea* that *wrote* the thing in the first place, not Linus...
Cheers,
keep the pissing contests for IRC Posted Jan 11, 2005 20:11 UTC (Tue) by zorgan (guest, #4016) [Link] Because *writing* != *maintaining*.Maintaining means reviewing other people's patches, forwarding them to tree maintainers, making sure the code stays clean and well-documented, etc. Andrea has not even bothered much sending his own to Linus/Marcelo.
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