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Novell Joins SuSE Linux, Netware in Public Beta (eWeek)

eWeek covers the first beta release of Novell's Open Enterprise Server. "Novell Inc. gave its NetWare and Linux users a Christmas present by releasing the first public beta of Novell Open Enterprise Server over the holiday weekend. OES is Novell's dual operating system, NetWare services platform. It can run on top of either SLES (SuSE Linux Enterprise Server) 9.2 or the NetWare 7.0 kernel or both. "We're not dropping NetWare; we are adding Linux," explained Jack Messman, Novell's chairman and CEO."
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Novell Joins SuSE Linux, Netware in Public Beta (eWeek)

Posted Dec 28, 2004 2:38 UTC (Tue) by kornak (guest, #17589) [Link]

Why is Netware referred to as an OS kernel?

Novell Joins SuSE Linux, Netware in Public Beta (eWeek)

Posted Dec 28, 2004 9:59 UTC (Tue) by csamuel (✭ supporter ✭, #2624) [Link]

Well, it may have changed since I last played with it (mid 90's), but back then it appeared like an OS in its own right (alabeit looking a lot like DOS).

Remember that this is only on the dedicated Netware servers, not what the Netware clients run..

BTW: I only had a very superficial view of it (they weren't my systems fortunately), so I could easily be wrong. :-)

Novell Joins SuSE Linux, Netware in Public Beta (eWeek)

Posted Dec 28, 2004 18:30 UTC (Tue) by fjf33 (subscriber, #5768) [Link]

I haven't used Novell since 4.11 (I think it was), but what you run on the server is a full OS on its own right and it used to run its own highly optimized kernel. The first Novell OS I ran (2.something), came as a set of 5 1/4" floppy disks full of .obj that you would link together (with the proper drivers which were also .obj) into one monolythic file and boot from that. Back then you could also run a dos shell and use the server as a DOS workstation too.

The good old days. :)

Novell Joins SuSE Linux, Netware in Public Beta (eWeek)

Posted Dec 29, 2004 0:11 UTC (Wed) by a9db0 (subscriber, #2181) [Link]

NetWare has it's own kernel. It also has it's own filesystem, networking stack, memory managment scheme, programming APIs, etc. It uses DOS simply to boot the machine - once you've got NetWare up you can remove all of the DOS code from memory. Oh, and it doesn't have to be MS-DOS. FreeDOS works too.

I'm still running NetWare on one of my boxes. Because it is stable, handles vast amounts of attached storage and users well, manages memory very well, has one of the best LDAP-compliant directories and rarely crashes. Rarely as in I-can't-remember-the-last-one. In the last five years I've rebuilt or reinstalled the OS on every computer I own multiple times - except the NetWare server. I just plug it in and it runs. Last time I rebooted it was in December - I had to swap UPSes. Time before that was 331 days earlier - probably due to an extended power outage. I'd have to check the UPS logs.

Will I try the new beta? Sure - on my test box. But I'll leave the managment of all my old code, MP3s, ISOs, database dumps, financials, etc to a box running an ancient non-internet-routable protocol.

Dave

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