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Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com)
Microsoft Outlook may face some new competition from the Mozilla Lightning
project, according to
this article on News.com.
"The new project, code-named Lightning, aims to integrate Mozilla's calendar application, Sunbird, with its recently released Thunderbird e-mail application. That integration is aimed right at the heart of Microsoft's widely used Outlook software."
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Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 23, 2004 23:22 UTC (Thu) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] This sounds great for home and small business users but without the ability to connect to MS Exchange it probably won't make much of a dent in the enterprise market. If they do add Exchange support, I hope that it's using whatever Exchange's native protocol is. Where I work everything that so-called exchange connectors rely on (exchange web access, POP, IMAP) is disabled.
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 24, 2004 1:05 UTC (Fri) by dwheeler (guest, #1216) [Link] Is that true for Novell's Ximian Connector for Evolution? That's been released as OSS/FS, and might be a starting point.
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 24, 2004 4:33 UTC (Fri) by TwoTimeGrime (guest, #11688) [Link] Yes, Ximian Connector uses Outlook web access to communicate with the server. I tried it on my linux box at work and it wouldn't work because out Exchange admins have OWA turned off.
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 24, 2004 4:02 UTC (Fri) by dang (subscriber, #310) [Link] A lot of shops would love to be able to more easily schedule meetings with their linux-using engineering team. The down side is that once they can productivity will drop :)
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 24, 2004 16:21 UTC (Fri) by Zarathustra (guest, #26443) [Link] If the meeting is scheduled by an Outlook user I certainly will not show up. For everyone else plain old ASCII(or this days UTF-8) email should do just fine.
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 24, 2004 16:42 UTC (Fri) by dneto (guest, #4954) [Link] That attitude is not helpful. You aren't involved in many meetings, are you?
I've been using Linux since kernel 1.0.8, and I love free software. But Outlook solves some key problems at work. Yes, I have to go to a fair number of meetings. The last thing I need is for a meeting to be unproductive because people are late or missing.
Would I be happy to use something else? Yes, as long as it's interoperable. But I do have to pick my battles.
Oh, and Merry Christmas. :-)
david
P.S. Thanks again to the LWN team for all your great work. I've been a reader for about 7yrs or so, and I'm a proud subscriber.
Meetings are always unproductive... :-) Posted Dec 26, 2004 9:52 UTC (Sun) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link] Really, the only productive things I had with more than one person were:1. joint coding sessions; 2. training sessions; 3. q-and-a "tell me your story" sessions. None of those is really a meeting IMHO (I tend to view all #3 as a special case of #1 where the others aren't coders). In the last big development I was involved we had weekly 3-hour "state of the project" meetings that were probably good for the PHB but for us just made the work week 3 hours smaller. I, for one, would have preferred a q-and-a e-mail session with all the team CCed, but hey, that's me. Merry Xmas -- or happy holidays -- and a nice New Year. Massa
Laptops and wireless or conference in from your desk Posted Dec 27, 2004 17:30 UTC (Mon) by AnswerGuy (guest, #1256) [Link] I've been on projects where the most productive members of the teambrought in their wireless equiped laptops or conferenced in from their desks. They listened to the meeting with one ear while coding and/or looking up salient details.
They were the same ones who also used IRC or IM almost continuously
One of them was Tridge (principle creator of Samba, rsync, and other
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 27, 2004 8:06 UTC (Mon) by eru (subscriber, #2753) [Link] The last thing I need is for a meeting to be unproductive because people are late or missing.Then Outlook is not the answer, and neither is any open-source clone of it. At my workplace Outlook is used, but still I have often forgotten about meetings because the calendar is on the Outlook server and contacting it requires a Windows PC with network and Outlook configured just right... What would be much better is a calendar and reservation system in something easily portable which can establish contact without a full-blown LAN, like something based on cell phones.
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 28, 2004 18:10 UTC (Tue) by jcabbott (guest, #20409) [Link] HERE HERE!! And if really pressed they might just pick up the phone!
Mozilla's Lightning to strike Outlook? (News.com) Posted Dec 26, 2004 21:52 UTC (Sun) by slacker775 (guest, #26880) [Link] I think you over-estimate Exchange's presence in the corporate world (and I'm not trying to imply that it is rare) and more importantly - it's influence. There are many organizations that use Lotus Notes, UNIX based email, Groupwise, or other solutions. Exchange is far from the 'de facto' standard in the corporate world. Sure, it'd be convienient if Lightning had the ability to work well in an Exchange world, but to me, it's much important that it follows that standards for calendaring and such so that maybe someday in the future, Exchange will actually support such things properly.
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