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Feedback to grumpy editor on email clients

From:  Carl Worth <cworth-AT-cworth.org>
To:  lwn-AT-lwn.net
Subject:  Feedback to grumpy editor on email clients
Date:  Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:58:45 -0500

Dear grumpy editor,
 
I'd been using mh-e for email for some time, and recently decided to
take a look elsewhere. (The primary motivation was a switch from
Debian to Fedora for my primary machine, but I'd also been annoyed by
some performance problems and bugs in mh-e for some time).
 
I've now switched to wanderlust and I'm quite hapyp with it:
 
        http://www.gohome.org/wl/
 
This is another emacs-based email interface and so far it seems to
solve most of the annoyances I suffered from with mh-e. The primary
userbase seems of wanderlust seems to be native Japanese speakers
which gives me comfort with respect to encoding bugs I had in mh-e.
 
Wanderlust also appears to perform much better than mh-e. It is happy
to use my existing mh folders, but it keeps a database alongside (in
~/.elmo) to cache sorting, threading, and other internal message
attributes.
 
There are some problems with wanderlust. I spent about a full day
configuring it before I found it entirely useful. The initial color
choices were particulary painful for me, but they may be because I
stick with "emacs -nw" to get the good fonts of my terminal (and
subsequent restriction in color choices). The manual was adequate, but
definitely required reading:
 
        http://www.gohome.org/wl/doc/wl_toc.html
 
And the sample configuration file (~/.wl) provided on the wb page was
very helpful:
 
        http://cvs.m17n.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/wanderlust/samples/en...
 
It actually contains many of the settings that should be set by
default.
 
Wanderlust supports 11 different folder types, (IMAP, NNTP,
LocalDir(MH), Maildir, News Spool, Archive, POP, Multi, Filter, Pipe
and Internal folder types), but I haven't used anything but mh
yet. I'm grumpy enough to want mail delivery divorced from email
interface.
 
The mail delivery piece is one thing I'm still not perfectly satisfied
with. For me, this currently works through a mishmash of tools,
(fetchmail for transport, procmail for prefiltering and routing
through spam checkers, and nmh for storing into my folders).
 
One thing I was attempting to do in switching from mh-e was to find a
solution that existed within Fedora, but I ended up just installing
nmh anyway. Another approach might be to switch to some other
1-mail-1-file folder type (maildir perhaps?) supported by wanderlust
that perhaps could be delivered to in a simpler fashion. Another idea
I've had is to use some offline imap tool using a native mh store,
(and that wouldn't mind my mail interface from mucking with it).
 
Anyway, that was much more than the quick note I was trying to
send. But perhaps you might look at wanderlust if you're still grumpy
and haven't tried it yet.
 
-Carl


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