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Ubuntu's choice of imagesUbuntu's choice of imagesPosted Dec 3, 2004 11:52 UTC (Fri) by cbetan (guest, #10157)In reply to: Debian and the hot babe problem by dkite Parent article: Debian and the hot babe problem
If you keep an 'offensive image' on your desktop for a full month, then I conclude that it was not 'accidentally there', and fairly enough your employer can be sued in those jurisdictions. If the image was there by accident after a default install, it can be easily corrected within one minute. No employer can be sued for that.
It is not Ubuntu's fault: it is the user's choice to disable the images or not.
What do I care about some jurisdictions in the USA? I don't live there, Ubuntu's HQ is not there, and I have quite a lot of fun with Ubuntu's creativity on their image choices. However I respect your opinion, the solution would not be to make Ubuntu 'consider their choices of images'.
Remember: there is a World 'out there' beyond USA borders.
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Ubuntu's choice of images Posted Dec 3, 2004 12:33 UTC (Fri) by piman (subscriber, #8957) [Link] But Debian *is* located in the US, insofar as the main FTP server is located there and Debian's non-profit umbrella is incorporated there.
It's one thing to say "the US has stupid laws". It's another thing to say "let's ignore the US's stupid laws, even though SPI, Red Hat, Novell, IBM, etc, are based there." The first is the start of a solution; the latter is a quick way to discourage free software use in the US.
Location of Debian Posted Dec 9, 2004 18:59 UTC (Thu) by etbe (subscriber, #17516) [Link] Technically it would not be difficult to setup a master server for acountry that contains packages that comply with the laws and customs of that country. So a Debian server in Iran or China could have a much smaller list of packages, and a Debian server in the Netherlands could have even more packages than the server in the US. This has already been suggested, but some people don't like that idea, they want the US and Netherlands repositories for Debian to contain the same set of packages that are considered suitable for an Iranian mirror. As for SPI incorporation, this problem doesn't seem to apply to multi-national corporations. I can think of a couple of examples (which I won't name due to legal reasons) of subsidiaries of US companies in other countries performing actions that would almost certainly result in them being successfully sued if the parent company in the US did the same things. I doubt that Debian in the Netherlands could get SPI in trouble any more than a subsidiary of a US corporation can get the parent company in trouble. A baseless law suit can kill a small company if the attacker has a significantly larger legal budget than the victim. If Debian could be destroyed in such a manner then it's quite likely that someone would have tried it already. However due to it all being free software Debian is immune to such attacks. The code will always remain free and the developers will always want to work on it so no matter what happens Debian will remain.
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